no pms'....no no no no no no no........things are done for reasons around here, and just about every time a member wants something, sundance sees to it, so there are very few things they wont add...this happens to be one of them....i can tell you this...just in chat alone, not having the ability to pm, has made a huge improvement...as for the rep....no, it also wont change...the reason it wont is that you have the ability to turn it off, and that was done so those that wanted it could have it, and those who dont, well, dont....it is a little, just a little, dont get all out of sorts here, silly to take it away from all that love it, and there are many, because people dont like why rep is being given...dont sweat it, and if you dont like the system, just dont use it...sorry i dont have better news for ya, but here is some rep for ya..random at that.....esp for you fatkid, you are pretty nifty....so relax, and collect some rep