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    I warned you in the subject title...

    If you have problems in your life of any kind right now,
    Read this.
    When I was shown this, my life changed.
    My world made sense,
    and I started to grow and heal, develop emotionally and intellectually and in all ways you could imagine. As marijuana users, I find we tend to have a similar trait in being slightly more open to healing ourselves, slightly more open to understanding ourselves.
    Loving the entire world is very possible.
    Loving yourself is a start.

    What is codependency / codependence ?





    12 step programs seem flawed.
    But I want some of you to think about this...
    We are human. To fully accept your humanity, is to fully accept all parts of your scientific bioligical make-up. You cannot Deny your humanity, as the perspective of denial COMES from your humanity.
    Lately, scientists are discovering that the brain is actually wired for religious expirience. This doesn't DENY spirituality, but instead, PROMOTES it.
    If our brains did not have any part of what they've developed,
    we wouldn't be able to perceive life from that perspective.
    So, why would our brains have spiritual awakening in them? Why not embrace our own humanity completely, A humanity which actually says YES, spirituality IS part of the human expirience, and feeling One With All, is certainly considered part of this spiritual realm.
    Therefore, in order to embrace that aspect of being human, 12 step programs admit that there is a higher power. They do not admit to there being a God, merely a HIGHER POWER. Something greater than they can perceive empathically, but definitaly something they can connect to on a human level.
    This, is unconditional love for the self, and in return, unconditional love for Life.

    I have read love being compared to emotional wavelengths, spiritual vibrations. They say love, unconditional pure love, is the highest wavelength of them all. Some beleive it to be the life-source, the Being, The expirience of the Higher Power. Occasionally, using psychedelics as a tool, people are able to tap into this higher power expirience. However, if we could go back in time and re-program the child's mind not to expirience the separation of unconditional love and Self, all of us would be like children.
    Intuitively completely Whole.

    In mel gibsons movie Apocalypto, there is a beginning scene in which the elder tells a story to the youth at night by the fire.
    He speaks of man taking all the good things he can from all the animals,
    and keeping them for himself. But when man comes to the Snake, the snake bites him, ripping a hole in man. Because of that Hole, man never feels complete. He keeps wanting more, and more, and more, to fill that hole, but the hole just keeps getting bigger as time goes on.

    This hole is the separation from the higher power, from the love.
    Advanced society pushes this concept even further into our faces every day,
    it is what drives Economy, Greed, Codependance, Addiction, and Pain in general.
    I was on psychedelics while I was watching this movie, and only now have I begun to understand why I felt intuitively that there was something startlingly important about the way these indians lived. Simplifying it removes the objective of attaining more external crap.

    Later, in that same movie, the natives are forced into the kind of society we live in today, by that very society. They are not peaceful, nor in harmony with themselves. The society of separation removes the intuitive funtioning of love within a human being. It programs us to ignore the emotional foundation of our true beings and live in a rationally darkened world.

    We might never have "proof" of a "higher being", but we are starting to understand Ourselves, and the human mind only works in certain ways.
    By getting in touch with our humanity, intuitively and scientifically,
    we can Heal the world, from a human perspective.

    I would love to hear your thoughts.
    Inferius Reviewed by Inferius on . Click This Sober If You Can I warned you in the subject title... If you have problems in your life of any kind right now, Read this. When I was shown this, my life changed. My world made sense, and I started to grow and heal, develop emotionally and intellectually and in all ways you could imagine. As marijuana users, I find we tend to have a similar trait in being slightly more open to healing ourselves, slightly more open to understanding ourselves. Loving the entire world is very possible. Loving Rating: 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billionfold
    Meh, it bored me. Sorry man, but I just don't see in it what you do. I'm not disrespecting, just saying it's not clicking with me.
    So you don't actually have anything to say other than an immediate lack of interest? I admit that I don't know you, but I am learning that when someone blanks out, loses interest, or starts thinking very fast in order for the ego to defend itself, it's usually a symptom that there is something to look further into.

    As for anyone else who reads this, I would prefer it for you to have a slightly more developed conclusion in your post.
    You can post w/e you want of course, I appreciate all opinions.

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    You guys are doing exactly what that link is talking about, lol. Its just cause America has snowballed doing this for so long now we're really fucked up.

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    Sure, those are all good thoughts. I think you started really strong and ended weaker. I think I totally agree about spirituality and mystical understanding being some latent potential of humankind.

    Where I'd be cautious, is with the like preservation of the very human drive to learn, to be curious, and to grow.

    I think science is an incredible tool for enriching our understanding of the universe as well. The return to a more rudimentary way of life is not practical or desirable. We just need to relearn the principles of sustainability and carry them with us into the future.

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    The answer to all of humankind's problems is so simple, that most people cant even see it. Why do you think the act of meditation is doing..nothing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billionfold
    So it can't possibly be because I do not relate?

    Damn, I guess I better start reading then. [/sarcasm]

    :thumbsup:

    EDIT: It's not that it doesn't interest me, it's just that you're asking us to read it like it's going to change our lives. Well, it didn't change mine.
    I don't see the point in making a post merely to say something doesn't interest you. I am interested in who you are billionfold, but in a thread with so much thought it just doesn't make much sense to me to say, That's Boring. I love that you can express your opinion, but why express an opinion with no thought tied to it? Still, I appreciate your posts.

    And I'm not asking you to interpret it in any way. I am merely giving my own interpretation, and in that other thread I merely made a point that if one were to give a little bit of effort and determination into reading, they may choose to gain from it.

    The ending was actually completely stream of consciousness, I was feeling really confident and was seeing connections in things that I've been pondering for some time now.

    Polymirize, I agree completely, I didn't really mean to make the old Let's Become Caveman point all over again, I only wanted to tie a few ideas together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billionfold
    I bet nobody gets why I said "hunams".
    Is it because you think we're merely highly evolved, self conscious yams?

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    Star Control

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    I'm pretty drunk still....and thi mkaes no sense.

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    that is a very interesting article, but i am not very concentrated right now... i brought it up to a couple friends and one took an objective approach, while the other did the same but tried to justify that kind of behavior.


    i found it amusing, so i guess i too am codependant on the reactions of others, however this is a very stimulating topic! im going to share the fun on mysapce n_n

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