The Origin and Destiny of Life?

[Jah420]

So it's a scientific fact that energy, in any form, can neither be created or destroyed, only transfered.

But what about life?
It's something i've been thinking about for a while now but I cant seem to talk to people about it without them drifting off on the whole 'ghosts and supernatural' tangent.. it always seems to go a bit hollywood in conversation and it gets on my nerves.

So.. is there a point somewhere in which 'life' starts? I guess you could trace it back to sperm, but I don't consider sperm to be life, I just consider it to be a living cell. Where does life start? And more importantly to me, where does it end? Does it end? All these thoughts going through my head and no amount of deep thinking, or cannabis for that matter, gets me anywhere close to even approaching any aspect of a solution.

I'd like to say now, of course everyone is free to express their opinions on the subject, but what I don't want is people trying to herd me towards christian beleifs, sorry, It just won't be happenin'.

But.. yeah.. if anyone's had similar thoughts or anythin.. go ahead :smokin:

Jah420 Reviewed by Jah420 on 05-18-2007. The Origin and Destiny of Life? So it's a scientific fact that energy, in any form, can neither be created or destroyed, only transfered. But what about life? It's something i've been thinking about for a while now but I cant seem to talk to people about it without them drifting off on the whole 'ghosts and supernatural' tangent.. it always seems to go a bit hollywood in conversation and it gets on my nerves. So.. is there a point somewhere in which 'life' starts? I guess you could trace it back to sperm, but I don't Rating: 5

[Marijuana connoisseu]

Your head will explode if you keep asking these questions. That, or the government will kill you.

[afghooey]

Just because a sperm cell doesn't have the capacity for reasoning doesn't mean that it's not alive. If that's your criteria for defining life, then life ends where reasoning ceases.

Personally, I think the line drawn between 'life' and 'non-life' is an illusion; everything is alive to some degree (or nothing is, depending on your perspective), it's just that the things which we generally consider to be alive are much more complex.

[Mayack419]

Only life can create life. Only life can create death. I generally rely on statistics. Unlike people, numbers don't lie. I know it may sound unrelated, but I personally believe that their is an afterlife. I came to this conclusion through pure logic. As well as the fact that there is a god. Through logic once again I attained this info. What are the two possibilities from where the human race stands right now? 1: Out of the trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions and, well you get the point, of planets, we are the only intelligent creatures in the WHOLE universe. Highly unlikely. 2: The universe is full of life from stem to stern. Much, much more likely. We have "the Earth was created in 7 days" theory, just to name one. And we have the Big Bang theory. Now, because the way logic works, everything comes from something and becomes something else. Over and over and over, much like the energy transference you were speaking of. Let's take the Big Bang theory. The whole universe was created from nothing. Wait a minute, that doesn't agree with logic. What is the only logical answer that we can come to that would allow for a definate beginning with nothing their before? God. It is the only logical answer, because EVERYONE, regardless of their religion, believes that god is everlasting and almighty, 2 things which are necessary to be obnipitent. So, since I have the conclusion that there IS a God, it makes me wonder, is there an afterlife? Of course there is. Or else all the life on these trillions and trillions of planets would be pointless. Maybe I should make a movie. "All Aliens Go To Heaven".

[afghooey]

I don't believe in an 'afterlife', because it's a complete oxymoron. :P

If there's something after life, then it's not life. If life never ceases, then there's no such thing as death. (either way, the term 'life after death' contradicts itself).

Also, the big bang theory doesn't say that the universe came out of nothing, it says that the universe came out of a singularity. Big difference.

[Mayack419]

A small singularity compared to the huge vastness of area covered now? Might as well be nothing. Either way. the question still remains. where did the singularity come from? My point is still valid. And the terms life and death are relevant terms. From our perspective your one or the other. Relative terms usually are contradictory.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

life, mind, consciousness, awareness, spirit, soul.


these are the players of the ultimate MMORPG.


the game is energy, matter, and physics.


we, the life, play matter, the game.



your body is but a piece of clothing for your mind.

it is but a vehicle of experience and sensation.


the mind uses energy and matter to create the illusion of life. or more appropriately, it uses these things to create the illusion of death.

[afghooey]

A small singularity compared to the huge vastness of area covered now? Might as well be nothing. Either way. the question still remains. where did the singularity come from? My point is still valid. And the terms life and death are relevant terms. From our perspective your one or the other. Relative terms usually are contradictory.

What does size have to do with anything? That's like saying a seed might as well be nothing just because it takes up so much less area, so how did the tree get there? As for where the singularity came from... it's theorized that eventually the universe will eventually contract back into a singularity again. Maybe it's just a cycle that's been going on forever.

If something MUST have a beginning in order to exist, then how did God begin?

[40oz]

Hey I think all you guys would really be interested in this movie if you have never seen it: Genesis (2004). It's a pretty cool and thought provocing documentary about life. It deals exactly with everything you were talking about Jah.

As for me, I don't really have much to say on the subject. I've realized that when it comes to life there are no answers, just questions.

[PureEvil760]

life, mind, consciousness, awareness, spirit, soul.


these are the players of the ultimate MMORPG.


the game is energy, matter, and physics.


we, the life, play matter, the game.



your body is but a piece of clothing for your mind.

it is but a vehicle of experience and sensation.


the mind uses energy and matter to create the illusion of life. or more appropriately, it uses these things to create the illusion of death.

Did you just compare life to an mmorpg? lol nice.