Bush Hails Deal on Immigration Reform

[pisshead]

bush is so conservative...amnesty for 30+ illegal immigrants...we should open up the entire world to come live here, and pay for them to come here, we can all live in cardboard boxes...

Bush Hails Deal on Immigration Reform [align=left] JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS
Associated Press
Thursday, May 17, 2007

WASHINGTON (AP) - Key senators in both parties and the White House announced agreement Thursday on an immigration overhaul that would grant quick legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already in the U.S. and fortify the border.[/align]
The plan would create a temporary worker program to bring new arrivals to the U.S and a separate program to cover agricultural workers. Skills and education-level would for the first time be weighted over family connections in deciding whether future immigrants should get permanent legal status. New high-tech employment verification measures also would be instituted to ensure that workers are here legally.
The compromise came after weeks of painstaking closed-door negotiations that brought the most liberal Democrats and the most conservative Republicans together with President Bush's Cabinet officers to produce a highly complex measure that carries heavy political consequences.
Bush called it "a much-needed solution to the problem of illegal immigration in this country" and said, if approved, the proposal "delivers an immigration system that is secure, productive, orderly and fair."
"With this bipartisan agreement, I am confident leaders in Washington can have a serious, civil and conclusive debate so I can sign comprehensive reform into law this year," he said in a written statement. Bush planned to make remarks about the bill later Thursday at the White House.
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, his party's lead negotiator on the deal, hailed it as "the best possible chance we will have in years to secure our borders and bring millions of people out of the shadows and into the sunshine of America."
Anticipating criticism from conservatives, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said, "It is not amnesty. This will restore the rule of law."
The accord sets the stage for what promises to be a bruising battle next week in the Senate on one of Bush's top non-war priorities.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., called the proposal a "starting point" for that debate, but added that it needs improvement.
"I have serious concerns about some aspects of this proposal, including the structure of the temporary worker program and undue limitations on family immigration," Reid said in a statement.
The key breakthrough came when negotiators struck a bargain on a so-called "point system" that prioritizes immigrants' education and skill level over family connections in deciding how to award green cards.
The immigration issue also divides both parties in the House, which isn't expected to act unless the Senate passes a bill first.
The proposed agreement would allow illegal immigrants to come forward and obtain a "Z visa" and - after paying fees and a $5,000 fine - ultimately get on track for permanent residency, which could take between eight and 13 years. Heads of household would have to return to their home countries first.
They could come forward right away to claim a probationary card that would let them live and work legally in the U.S., but could not begin the path to permanent residency or citizenship until border security improvements and the high-tech worker identification program were completed.
A new temporary guest worker program would also have to wait until those so-called "triggers" had been activated.
Those workers would have to return home after work stints of two years, with little opportunity to gain permanent legal status or ever become U.S. citizens. They could renew their guest worker visas twice, but would be required to leave for a year in between each time.
Democrats had pressed instead for guest workers to be permitted to stay and work indefinitely in the U.S.
In perhaps the most hotly debated change, the proposed plan would shift from an immigration system primarily weighted toward family ties toward one with preferences for people with advanced degrees and sophisticated skills. Republicans have long sought such revisions, which they say are needed to end "chain migration" that harms the economy, while some Democrats and liberal groups say it's an unfair system that rips families apart.
Family connections alone would no longer be enough to qualify for a green card - except for spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens.
New limits would apply to U.S. citizens seeking to bring foreign-born parents into the country.

pisshead Reviewed by pisshead on 05-18-2007. Bush Hails Deal on Immigration Reform bush is so conservative...amnesty for 30+ illegal immigrants...we should open up the entire world to come live here, and pay for them to come here, we can all live in cardboard boxes... Bush Hails Deal on Immigration Reform JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS Associated Press Thursday, May 17, 2007 WASHINGTON (AP) - Key senators in both parties and the White House announced agreement Thursday on an immigration overhaul that would grant Rating: 5

[pisshead]

Senator: "No Matter How You Spin It, This Is Amnesty" [align=left] Jim DeMint
Thursday, May 17, 2007

May 17th, 2007 - Washington, D.C. - Today, U.S. Senator DeMint made the following statement: [/align]
"I hope we don't take a thousand page bill written in secret and try to ram it through the Senate in a few days. This is a very important issue for America and we need time to debate it."
"But the little we do know about the bill is troubling. According to reports, the bill contains a new 'Z Visa' that allows those who entered our country illegally to stay here permanently without ever returning home. This rewards people who broke the law with permanent legal status, and puts them ahead of millions of law-abiding immigrants waiting to come to America. I don't care how you try to spin it, this is amnesty."
Senator DeMint is chairman of the Senate Steering Committee, a caucus of conservative senators that includes the majority of the Republican Conference.

[Psycho4Bud]

Well Pisshead, this is a landmark day in CC history........me, you, and Bill O'Reilly see eye to eye on this issue! LOL....your turning into a neo-con slow but sure. LMAO

Have a good one!:s4:

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Well Pisshead, this is a landmark day in CC history........me, you, and Bill O'Reilly see eye to eye on this issue! LOL....

with an overwhelming majority of the population of this country being against amnesty, it shouldn't surprise you that people of widely differing views should agree on the subject. it seems that the only ones who want it are big business looking for slave labor, ivory tower liberals who's idea of equality is having everyone live in the same gutter (except for themselves, of course), politicians looking for extra votes, the mexican government looking to rid themselves of what they consider surplus population, and the illegals themselves.

[Psycho4Bud]

For everyone to come together in such a bi-partisan agreement, it makes me wonder what concessions on other issues were made that just aren't being mentioned yet. Behind closed doors ya know...........

Have a good one!:s4:

[delusionsofNORMALity]

For everyone to come together in such a bi-partisan agreement, it makes me wonder what concessions on other issues were made that just aren't being mentioned yet. Behind closed doors ya know...........

Have a good one!:s4:

war funding for amnesty? i don't suppose it really matters. seems to me that the dems and reps have been in cahoots from day one and all the fireworks were just to give the peons a show. they both just want to play god anyway.

damn, i'm sounding more and more like a conspiracy nut every day. that's one of the reasons i don't spend much time in politics any more. the whole thing is getting depressing as all hell and i'm getting to the point where violence is really starting to sound like a viable option.

[medicinal]

war funding for amnesty? i don't suppose it really matters. seems to me that the dems and reps have been in cahoots from day one and all the fireworks were just to give the peons a show. they both just want to play god anyway.

damn, i'm sounding more and more like a conspiracy nut every day. that's one of the reasons i don't spend much time in politics any more. the whole thing is getting depressing as all hell and i'm getting to the point where violence is really starting to sound like a viable option.

Yeah, I'd not go to Iraq and fight for the oil barons, But if enough people would get together to take our country back from the elites and corporations, I'd get out a gun and go along, popping a few rich assholes seems like sport to me, and if you got to shoot some politicians, that would be a bonus. The new American revolution will probably not get off the ground untill I'm long gone, But unless all the youngsters get hooked on soma, it's sure to come.

[Psycho4Bud]

Yeah, I'd not go to Iraq and fight for the oil barons, But if enough people would get together to take our country back from the elites and corporations, I'd get out a gun and go along, popping a few rich assholes seems like sport to me, and if you got to shoot some politicians, that would be a bonus. The new American revolution will probably not get off the ground untill I'm long gone, But unless all the youngsters get hooked on soma, it's sure to come.

I guess I'm just an old pacifist.............

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yq372R4Ts[/YOUTUBE]

Have a good one!:s4:

[delusionsofNORMALity]

The new American revolution will probably not get off the ground untill I'm long gone, But unless all the youngsters get hooked on soma, it's sure to come.

....and bloodless at that.

i'm afraid that the next american revolution has already started. with such traitors as ted kennedy, john mccain, harry reid and baby bush firmly in the pocket of the mexican government and the racist pigs of la raza; we will soon find the entire southwest annexed by mexico and turned into a mirror image of the cesspool of poverty and corruption we see on the other side of the border. i should probably add the most of the roster of presidential candidates to that short list, but i'll just leave it to those four snakes for now. no matter how obvious these fools are, the american people seem to be too complacent to lift a finger against a government that seems to only be interested in the welfare of the powerful.

[Psycho4Bud]

....and bloodless at that.

i'm afraid that the next american revolution has already started. with such traitors as ted kennedy, john mccain, harry reid and baby bush firmly in the pocket of the mexican government and the racist pigs of la raza

Bi-partisan anger........I can respect that totally!! I'm VERY disappointed with both sides of the fence on this one!

When these illegal fucks are protesting they should have semi's waiting to load ALL their asses up. Let the Mexican government decide who is and not theirs when we dump them off.

Have a good one!:s4: