[quote=Jim Morrison]dont get any vaporizer with a flame heating element or ones that say you use a lighter cause fire will equal combustion i dont care how well they say their "flame filter" works

Sounds like you don't have up to date information on flame vapes, there are a few out there that work really well. Vaporbong, vapor genie, or my absolute favourite the Vapourstar - home.
$50 watch the clip, stunning hit.