Chistians=FEAR Jesus=LOVE

[PureEvil760]

It is difficult to imagine Jesus being afraid of anything, including God. In Old Testament times, the Jews had created an image of God as being an angry and judgmental God who was ready to punish people for the slightest transgression of his laws. Jesus brought a distinctly different view of God, namely that of a loving Father figure.

After the time of Jesus, some Christian churches, especially during the Middle Ages, reverted back to a frightening image of God. Yet if this image is out of touch with Jesus' teachings on God, why should modern Christians continue to hold on to it?

It is also difficult to see Jesus having a fear-based approach to religion. He clearly was not afraid of the orthodox Jewish authorities. In fact, one might argue that it was his open independence and defiance that got him killed. So why should modern Christians have a fear-based approach to religion? Why should they fear a particular church or the authorities of a church? Why should they fear that by thinking about ideas outside orthodox doctrine, they will go to Hell? Jesus clearly did not believe that his followers would go to Hell for accepting ideas that went far beyond Jewish doctrine.

Jesus clearly was not afraid to question the authorities, the scriptures or the official interpretation of the scriptures. So why should modern Christians be afraid to ask questions that go beyond orthodox doctrines? Jesus told us to seek, and he clearly was not afraid to seek beyond the orthodox doctrines of his time. Why should we be afraid to seek beyond the doctrines and dogmas of our time?

Jesus clearly loved God, and he told us to love God with all of our hearts, minds and souls. Fear and love are incompatible emotions. You want to get close to what you love, and you want to get away from what you fear. So if Jesus told us to love God, then he clearly wanted us to overcome all fear related to God and religion. In fact, he talked about the perfect love that casts out all fear.

If we want to truly follow Jesus, should we not seek and accept that perfect love and stop living in fear?

PureEvil760 Reviewed by PureEvil760 on 05-11-2007. Chistians=FEAR Jesus=LOVE It is difficult to imagine Jesus being afraid of anything, including God. In Old Testament times, the Jews had created an image of God as being an angry and judgmental God who was ready to punish people for the slightest transgression of his laws. Jesus brought a distinctly different view of God, namely that of a loving Father figure. After the time of Jesus, some Christian churches, especially during the Middle Ages, reverted back to a frightening image of God. Yet if this image is out of Rating: 5

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i would like to point out that the jewish faith had changed not too long after jesus was born, that jesus was acting on the roots of judiasm.

jesus was the last TRUE jew of his time.

[afghooey]

Although the title of the thread is a bit misleading, you do make a very good point.

Jesus was a rebel, and he got crucified for it. What is the suffering that he asked us to endure when he told us to pick up our own crosses and follow him? I don't think it is the suffering of atonement for our sins; especially assuming that Jesus has already absolved those when he died on the cross. "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven". How could one attain the kingdom of heaven, rejecting materialism and all the stipulations thereof, without dissenting to authority and it's laws?

[PureEvil760]

It is just the suffering of following a different path than everyone else. Our "own crosses" is another way of saying our own higher being or higher state of consiousness.

[Pass That Shit]

jesus was the last TRUE jew of his time.


I agree. He was also the first TRUE jew of his time.
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[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

of his time anyways... lol before he was born, what he became was the avarage jew, minus the miracles :P


they held the same beliefs and stuff, but many of the higher ups decided to use the religion to seize more power and instilled fear in the faith, which is the work not of god, but of a devil.

Belial... not Lucifer.

Lucifer rules hell, but is not evil. lucifer wants power, but hates Satan. satan. who tricked lucifer into falling.


i hate talking about christian things like that, i feel like a nut :P

[PureEvil760]

I love Satan, therefore he cannot touch me.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

dont lose respect for his ability to trick you, be wary that it is possible he can touch you. there is no universal defense against illusions and trickery.

[PureEvil760]

Stoner, we may be on the same track here..both of us fighting pride, but I am definatly a bit farther ahead than you, I already know this. Satan is not real, it is just the absence of God.

[PureEvil760]

acctually sorry, with the information I gave, that was acctually a very wise thing to say. If you recieved a good feeling from that comment remember, that feeling is negative, this is what we are fighting..we must remain uncomfortable with ourselves.