European closet just finished over a weekend and startet up the 1. batch 9/5-07

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thats gonna get real crowded in there real quick
also hps lights are not recommended for sprouting seeds, i noticed they sprouted already but for the record i would use fluros next time at least till they get theyre first set of nodes
the lights are just entirely to intense for that young of a plant

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^^
thanks for the tips
at the beginning i wanted too put in 2 normal 150w grow lights one on each side of the 400w and 1 fluo at the back, for when they are seedlings, but i had no green at the time so i will wait untill my next grow and the the heat i notist early on, if you see one of the first pics- the temp are 88,8 not good :wtf: but i raist it a good 10-15 inch so now it should be ok
and space yeahh all growers could do with a big ass farm lol
any way thanks a lot for the tips they will be put to good use:jointsmile:

[Dazed4now]

fo sho keep the heat low a 400w hps is a whole lotta heat for sure
i was just worried about space cause thats 24 plants? in a very small room and only 1 hps
a 400watt is alot of power but 24 plants will get huge
i guess you could consider the males to tho which will prolly bring the # of plants down a tad

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yea its prob the heat from the 400w that burned the frst ice crop.
and theres only 22 left of the 24 i strated with that helps a bit, and theres the 2 stages that i now of: when it starts flowering and a bit in the floworing stage when theres a chance tor males or herms.
but it looks all right for now and my own guess would be, that when all is ready for harvest theres 17-20 good plants left.
with a bit of cation and daly care taking i will get those barstard lol.
thaught about getting a cultivator box with an arophonics setup, for cuttings/clones and get some experience on that issue found some holding from 12-30 clones and if done right they spit out fresh clones in 7-10 days

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good luck man imma log this grow fo sho
do you have any form of CO2 in this grow?
only thing that worries me is the most plants i've ever seen grown under 1 400w hps is like 12 fully budded plants, and that was definetly a crowd
my suggestion would be to get bout 5 or 6 mother plants and just clone those, keeping the mother plants under say a...250watt metal halide and rooting the clones using T5 high output flouros DONT USE A HPS TO ROOT CLONES btw
also those cultivator boxes get real expensive youd prolly be better off just growing the clones in dirt for a few times till u research aeroponics more and are able to build one yourself
aeroponics/hydroponics or anything related to that matter is tedious work and takes careful cautioning cause one problem that could only have hours to fix could ruin your whole crop
and building your own aeroponics system would save cash in your wallet definetly
but clones are the way to go, high yeilds in smaller spaces, you might want to research Scrog (screen of green) to as that will increase yeilds alot by concentrating the light onto a canopy.

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no co2 just dirt, lights, exhaust fan and a fan for venting the plants, and canna terra vega and flores nuetrience and some exstra nuet for the first week of flower stage caled pk 13-14
the ida was to get to know more on plants how they would grow idoor in dirt an to se how they do under different setups and ways to grow.
cut/trim different sektions of the stem when its in growth stage and se how it would reakt to it: small growth, bigger buds, more buds, stronger thc and so on and so on.
then use that info on an hydrophonic or airophonics setup and do the same there until i find the setup that gives me the most rappedly and biggest.. ehhh lets just say "pleasure" under the giving space and sercumstances.
i smoke every day and thats quite ekspensiv i pay round 35-50 dkkr for a gram of hash here and about half for pot skunk
"yes dk is a hash contry"
its like 7-10 $ a gram i know the prices are much higher in the stats but im use to the prices here and if i can save some of my hard erned cash darned if i would miss that opportunety

its my first indoor grow ever eksept for a cupple plant standing in a window or some seeds just trown in a corner of a forest or a field.
whats the dif on SOG and SROG (hav been reading some on SOG)
here in denmark we hade "christiania" it was like a little pice of amsterdam the politics and cops dident bother aboute.
its been there since 1971 when some ung hippis took it from the army in a semi violant cop vs normalfolk
(the buildings where vacaned)since then its been a far free heaven, a pirats bay for those how like the ida of been totaly free, rappers, graff artists, skaters potheads big small black white they have only a cupple of rules there no laws or as much as the law dossent here vanything form em we dont here anything of the law LOL.
pot, hash, skunk, pre done joints and blunts, hash brownies you name it they make it ones during a session of koncerts here snoop dog came to wisit this remarkeble flower town ni the middle copenhagen and got to cockey on smokin pot, it had its end when they had to help him staggering outa there couse hi smoked too much no worrys big dog we all been there, it hit every newspapper in denmark and is a 100% true story every rapper and skater here nows it. sory the of topic couldent risist
for about 30 years now it been seen as ok to smoke mj and hash in dk and now they changed goverments or some shit and from day to day it been made totaly illigal now i have been smokein since i was 15-16 (26now) and what ever law they make do not make me wanna quit, only when i feel that its not gonna be a part of how i am any more then its time to place that pipe on the shelf..
you did not make me, as i did not contribute to the makings of your laws and
rules...so you can not make me do things that i fuc... wont! RLB 2007

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the rest started to look like real plants, so i set the lot into flowering face last night. lights 12/12 and a change in neutrience

12pm eu time
(hade a divers coures that lasted till 01.00am)
i woke up to a sad sight....
no light from my 400w hps
it blew some time during the night amd it was brand new only used on this grow......AAAARRGHHHHH
here i go as fast i can to my grow shop GOD DA... the shop dont open untill 3pm eu time and the plants have been without lights, god nows how long....hmm roll up smoke wait wait smoke some more
at last got the 400w hps for free, the shopowner just looked at me and remmembers me at once and said your absolutly right
it must be some sort of malefunktion and gave me a new
so the money i brought
(incase he was a complet retard)
i jused to buy a new 400w sun master metal halide for next grow
came home late hade some things to do, changed the hps and hope they didnet suffer too much damage....

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btw found out the dif on sog and scrog lol

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they diddent suffer that much from the lack of light the other day when the bulb blew...still lookin good:thumbsup:

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to day i have a positive id on 15 female`s and 4 males
i pulled up and dissposed the males before they pollinate the rest of the females
there are still 4 plants left i cant tell the sex on yet
but in a day or 2 they will prob show.

out of 24 seeds planted thats allright. (niravarna seeds)
i will post picks later.


does anyone have an ida on a good easy way to make hash that gets as mutch thc with it posible it should be less flameable than the once with alcohol, dubbleboilers and icebaths???

my plan is first to seperate the chrystals then take a few of the best buds for my own stash and make hash of the remains.

i mostly smoke the dark sticky easy to mix
(when they have been hand warmed first they use to be rock hard at first)
im lookin to make something like afgan, black marrocan or pollen somting like that colud do and only those of high thc levels