i have sat and practiced and all that shit, i cant roll worth a damn without a roller no matter how hard i try, im to shakey, by the time i get it ready to go, all the weed is all over... but parents found my roller long ago, so i stick to my pipes now. I can kind of get a doller bill to work for a joint though, i think if i practice with something other then a 1000 paso bill i can do better. I thought it would be cool to use a mexican bill for the mexican shit around here, but its a wierd kind of paper, and doesnt work to well