Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut
Okay, fine. Give me a definition of God that isn't supernatural, and prove it exists, and give me a good reason to call it "God".
On one condtion. You have to give me a definition of beauty that isn't intangible, and then prove to me that something is beautiful using that definition.

Can you prove to me that beauty even exists in this world?

The Jesus myth is loaded with allusions to the idea that God is "in the sky" somewhere. What the heck was that whole Ascension thing about then? Jesus taking a trip to the Moon to chill for 3 days?

I think Jesus means to say here that God's powers extend over everything, not just his heavenly realm.
Interpret it how you like, but I think that the whole 'ascension' thing was probably just a holdover from outdated old-testament beliefs, many of which Jesus was obviously opposed to and actually spoke out against. But that's my opinion. :stoned: