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05-08-2007, 07:09 PM #1OPJunior Member
Need Help, pls! Job related drug test
First, let me thank you for helping me out...
Im 5'10 160lbs with 13% body fat and in relatively good shape (tho perhaps I smoke too much).
Okay, so here's my problem. I found out that on Friday I was offered a really great job. Good news right? Well..almost. The recruiter chick told me that I had to submit to a drug test within 72 hours of receiving the offer letter.
Now mind you, on friday I was on my way to Vegas for the fight, and was in the middle of a session while on the phone with her. The offer letter was sent to my home on Friday so I didnt get it until sunday when i returned (tho i told them that i wasnt coming back until wed -- to delay).
Long story short, I tried to delay them by telling them I was going out of town for a wedding (only thing I could think of on the spot) and that I would return on wednesday (5/09). Im supposed to start work on Monday the 14th, so I have a small window in which to clean up and pass the test.
I have not smoked since monday and have scoured the internet for information on how to pass. I have read medical journals regarding THC's half-life, how long is stays in fat cells in Chronic and acute smokers, what one can eat and drink to help the process, and read all about Dillution and Subsitution (and have come to the conclusion that subbing wont work for me). I have even bought some online detox system for like 110$ (which arrives tomorrow). Though after further research it doesnt seem like the detox system has much merit.
My plan is to delay, delay, delay....however, if that does not work, and since sub. is not an option....what is my best course of action?? It seems that from what I have read on this website and others that dillution might work, but, to be honest, I want something more sure than that.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!yatman Reviewed by yatman on . Need Help, pls! Job related drug test First, let me thank you for helping me out... Im 5'10 160lbs with 13% body fat and in relatively good shape (tho perhaps I smoke too much). Okay, so here's my problem. I found out that on Friday I was offered a really great job. Good news right? Well..almost. The recruiter chick told me that I had to submit to a drug test within 72 hours of receiving the offer letter. Now mind you, on friday I was on my way to Vegas for the fight, and was in the middle of a session while on the phone Rating: 5
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05-08-2007, 07:25 PM #2Senior Member
Need Help, pls! Job related drug test
Why is subbing not an option? If it is pre-employement, you are almost assured an unobserved test. Sub and use dilution as back up if you must.
I saw in the other thread you like the delivery devices. Use a search engine for the whizzinator.
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05-08-2007, 07:48 PM #3OPJunior Member
Need Help, pls! Job related drug test
Hey guys,
Well the sub is not an option because I dont know anyone that would be willing to give me their *ahem* urine. However, If I can I will def look into it...
Now, I have been doing some other research and have come upon this website from another person on this message board.
Erowid Drug Testing Vaults : Misc Info
Relevant Info Below:
[2] focuses on the use of Visine to prevent pot metabolite detection. Hereis a table summarizing the effectiveness of varying concentrations of Visine:
Visine concentration (mL / L) :
0 10 20 50 100 200 300
Apparent 9-carboxy-THC concentration (ug / L) :
100 52 43 47 35 85 87
(Note the positive test cutoff value is 50 ug / L 9-carboxy-THC).
The interesting thing to observe is the effectiveness of Visine as THC metabolite masker decreases as its concentration goes up past a certain point. The same pattern occured with the TDx and Abuscreen assays (the TDx assay generated false negatives, but the Abuscreen assay's apparent metabolite value fell only to 52 ug / L). The lesson to be learned is the optimum amount of Visine to use is around 100 mL / L.
The ingredients of Visine responsible for the blocking of the THC test are given as benzalkonium chloride (a preservative) and the borate buffer. The mechanisms of the borate buffer were not discussed, but "reduced
availability of 9-carboxy-THC in urine samples adulterated with Visine is due in part to uptake of 9-carboxy-THC into benzalkonium chloride micelles."
To use this information to your advantage, figure that the standard urine specimen is 60 mL. At 100 mL / L Visine recommended, this means 6 mL of Visine would cut the observed 9-carboxy-THC almost two-thirds. Visine comes
in 15 mL and 30 mL bottles. For advice on how to add the adulterant, read Abbie Hoffman's book on piss-testing, _Steal this Urine Test_. Use of other methods (such as diluting your urine by frequent water drinking) should be
researched.
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05-08-2007, 07:50 PM #4OPJunior Member
Need Help, pls! Job related drug test
Has anyone used Visine to mask THC metabolites? And if so, how did it go? How effective is it?
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