Sugar Water?

[Chronic Chrissy]

Look.what.I.found.for.you(I.learnt.a.few.things.to o).

http://boards.cannabis.com/organic-g...ml#post1423535

Hope.it's.not.to.late.

[ex-stoner/new grower]

Look.what.I.found.for.you(I.learnt.a.few.things.to o).

http://boards.cannabis.com/organic-g...ml#post1423535

Hope.it's.not.to.late.

Thanks Chrissy, it took me 15 minutes to read all of that, but very well worth it. I appreciate you sendin it my way. My girl has actually shown no signs of stress at all, no wilting or yellowing or anything, I guess I was all worried over nothing since her little tumble and root damage. I think it helped that it was raining and the soil is very aerated and light.

[evertking]

molasses is cheap and it works

[JessieDiamond]

Sugar is OK, but what you need is molasses! Sugar will feed the beneficial fungi and bacteria in your soil, which in turn help your plants absorb their nutrients. Molasses goes one step further- it provides minerals, too. You will want the darker kind of molasses, not the light. Darker means more good stuff in it. I use one tablespoon per gallon of water, deep into flowering I sometimes use 2. If your plant is a sativa (tall, with skinny leaves), it may not help- some of them just have fluffy buds. Try running a search on molasses here and you will start using it! (Normally, I'd post a link for you, but Granny's sick today- one of my darlings at school gave me a nasty cold and you're big enough run a search without my help.)- Granny:hippy:

Spray sugar water on my buds - Page 6 - Marijuana Growing

In that thread I give reasons why. Just my two cents. :-)

~jessie

[Rusty Trichome]

Sugar is not the best foliar spray, but if you want bugs...it attracts them nicely. If you want sticky plants, walls and equipment, sugar is the ticket.

Are you sure your sugar water is doing anything other than clogging the leaf's stomata? I'm not. The sugars must be broken-down into a usable form for it to benefit a plant. Otherwise it's not something the plant uses, it's something it deals with.

If sugar water was so good, compainies like Advanced Nutrients would have most of their products derived from it. But that's not the case, as most of their products are derived from some form of molasses. Mostly sugar beet or cane sugar, but there are other totally bullshit concoctions that are simply watered-down molasses with a hefty pricetag.

CalMag Plus, is a great example of this. It's not a bullshit concoction, but it is watered-down molasses. It's an ok product, per-se...but the 3 main benefits from molasses is the calcium, the magnesium, and the iron. Plus, there's carbs for bulking and a plethora of micronutes, but at fairly insignificant levels. Sugar water has...processed sugar and water.

Believe it or not...even though this thread is three years old...the information is still valid. I'd ditch the sugar water for something that works.

[TorchHypnosis]

Sugar is not the best foliar spray, but if you want bugs...it attracts them nicely. If you want sticky plants, walls and equipment, sugar is the ticket.

Are you sure your sugar water is doing anything other than clogging the leaf's stomata? I'm not. The sugars must be broken-down into a usable form for it to benefit a plant. Otherwise it's not something the plant uses, it's something it deals with.

If sugar water was so good, compainies like Advanced Nutrients would have most of their products derived from it. But that's not the case, as most of their products are derived from some form of molasses. Mostly sugar beet or cane sugar, but there are other totally bullshit concoctions that are simply watered-down molasses with a hefty pricetag.

CalMag Plus, is a great example of this. It's not a bullshit concoction, but it is watered-down molasses. It's an ok product, per-se...but the 3 main benefits from molasses is the calcium, the magnesium, and the iron. Plus, there's carbs for bulking and a plethora of micronutes, but at fairly insignificant levels. Sugar water has...processed sugar and water.

Believe it or not...even though this thread is three years old...the information is still valid. I'd ditch the sugar water for something that works.

Okay, so a little biochemistry lesson: Plants do not uptake complex sugars. Even sucrose (contained in white granulated table sugar) is not something a plant will have an easy time processing. To put my point in layman's terms, "you've got to boil your sugar for 5 minutes to break down the sucrose into glucose, the simplest form of carbohydrate if you want your plant to be able to assimilate it". I am not saying molasses will not help "your nugs bulk up". The truth is actually quite the opposite. However, the prime function of molasses is to stimulate the propagation of beneficial microbials in the soil. Molasses will notably increase plant nutrient uptake, but if you want to benefit from a carbohydrate growth boost, boil your sugars in clean filtered water for 5 minutes. I use brown sugar because of the molasses contained in brown sugar, but that's largely because I don't use molasses. I use sugar solutions during weeks 4-8 on a 10 week cycle. Anywhere from 1.5 and 3 Tbsp/gallon is what I've noticed people using, but I use 1.5 Tbsp/Gallon. *NOTE Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT water your plants with boiling water. Not to say you would, just sayin'.

[Weezard]

Hmmm,

Looks like it's time for a chemistry lesson.

Boiling Sucrose will not convert it to Glucose.
However, if you add a small amount of citric acid it will.

Heating starch to ~160F. will convert it to glucose.
Boiling starch will cook it.

Plants produce sugars, but they do not uptake them.
That's why they need light.

And glucose in soil feeds mostly yeasts.

Just sayin.

Aloha,
Weeze

[built2spill]

Molasses is a great additive to any soil based grow. I have used Blackstrap for many years in my outdoor grows. Molasses feeds the soil and the plant. Win, Win.

[TorchHypnosis]

Sugar is not the best foliar spray, but if you want bugs...it attracts them nicely. If you want sticky plants, walls and equipment, sugar is the ticket.

Are you sure your sugar water is doing anything other than clogging the leaf's stomata? I'm not. The sugars must be broken-down into a usable form for it to benefit a plant. Otherwise it's not something the plant uses, it's something it deals with.

If sugar water was so good, compainies like Advanced Nutrients would have most of their products derived from it. But that's not the case, as most of their products are derived from some form of molasses. Mostly sugar beet or cane sugar, but there are other totally bullshit concoctions that are simply watered-down molasses with a hefty pricetag.

CalMag Plus, is a great example of this. It's not a bullshit concoction, but it is watered-down molasses. It's an ok product, per-se...but the 3 main benefits from molasses is the calcium, the magnesium, and the iron. Plus, there's carbs for bulking and a plethora of micronutes, but at fairly insignificant levels. Sugar water has...processed sugar and water.

Believe it or not...even though this thread is three years old...the information is still valid. I'd ditch the sugar water for something that works.

Okay, so a little biochemistry lesson: Plants do not uptake complex sugars. Even sucrose (contained in white granulated table sugar) is not something a plant will have an easy time processing. To put my point in layman's terms, "you've got to boil your sugar for 5 minutes to break down the sucrose into glucose, the simplest form of carbohydrate if you want your plant to be able to assimilate it". I am not saying molasses will not help "your nugs bulk up". The truth is actually quite the opposite. However, the prime function of molasses is to stimulate the propagation of beneficial microbials in the soil. Molasses will notably increase plant nutrient uptake, but if you want to benefit from a carbohydrate growth boost, boil your sugars in clean filtered water for 5 minutes. I use brown sugar because of the molasses contained in brown sugar, but that's largely because I don't use molasses. I use sugar solutions during weeks 4-8 on a 10 week cycle. Anywhere from 1.5 and 3 Tbsp/Gallon is what I've noticed people using, but I use 1.5 Tbsp/Gallon. Also, I will boil 12 tablespoons of sugar in 4 cups of water to making a sugar water "concentrate". This allows me to mix that sugar water concentrate with cold water to make the watering solution a temperature cool enough to be able to water my plants immediately. You will have to do a bit of arithmetic, but it beats the crap out of waiting for 6 gallons of water to reach room temperature!

[TorchHypnosis]

Hmmm,

Looks like it's time for a chemistry lesson.

Boiling Sucrose will not convert it to Glucose.
However, if you add a small amount of citric acid it will.

Heating starch to ~160F. will convert it to glucose.
Boiling starch will cook it.

Plants produce sugars, but they do not uptake them.
That's why they need light.

And glucose in soil feeds mostly yeasts.

Just sayin.

Aloha,
Weeze

Thanks for the info, I'm not sure how I thought boiling sugar would break the chemical bonds of the sucrose. I know hydrochloric acid will also break those bonds, I did not know about the citric acid.

Anywho, maybe it's the molasses in the brown sugar and the sugars contained in the solution that is nourishing microbials in the soil, thus increasing plant nutrient uptake. But there are some observations that I have made that tell me that a plant WILL uptake sugars to some degree. Firstly, you put freshly cut flowers in sugar water the buds will last about three times as long before wilting than if you just put them in plain old water. That right there tells me sugars get pulled up into the plant when the plant drinks, and furthermore, those sugars consumed by the plant have a quantifiable effect. The other observation that I have made is about 3-4 days after beginning sugar feeding the plant's flowers weigh more. Also if I don't use the sugar the flowers will be less dense. Can someone explain to me more about what sugars do to a plant? The boiled brown sugar that I'm using is DEFINITELY making my little girlies much more voluptuous.