Quote Originally Posted by rebgirl420
As a future history teacher i resent all of this crappy teacher crap. Its the students fault. The info is there. Either you study or you don't, no one is or should have to twist your arm. Not to mention maybe the parents can step in and help. learning doesnt just end in schools. I know my parents kept a fire under my ass to keep my A's.
i apologize for the novel in advance. feel free to not read it, all i ask is that if anyone wants to reply to it, read the whole thing

no, it really isnt the students fault. not totally, anyway. for the first time this semester, and i am someone who loves history, i actually had a good history teacher. ive had teachers ive liked before, yes, but this is the only guy who was able to show why and how the history we are learning is really relevant today and also illustrated why the world is today the way it is, welcoming everyones opinions and also giving us the facts. im going to get an a in the class, but that isnt the point. if you think you are getting more out of school by getting your as then y ou are just flat wrong and thats the bottom line of whats wrong about the us education system. there is memorizing formulas and passages from books, which is effort, and im not badmouthing effort in any way, but then there is really really learning and actually taking something away from the class. and in highschool i have to say i liked probably a third of my teachers, but id also have to say i only had 2 or three that id say were truly great teachers.

now im not saying the kids are always that way, you have to want to learn, but a great teacher of an interesting subject with substance(ie not math, but even math if it can have a practical application), can make most people want to learn.

to wrap this up, if your point is that kids getting bad grades is no the teachers fault, i agree with you. as someone who has gotten plenty of both good and bad grades i can say it is all about effort. however, if you are saying that kids getting nothing out of a class has n othing to do with the teacher, i whole heartedly disagree. i can really say that i got very little out of highschool, and that at the next level the percentage of really good teachers is significantly than it is in highschool. the mistake i think people make, and i heard a woman who went to harvard say this one time, is the disparity of teachers between the so called good and bad schools in america. i went to a decent state university and am now at a community college and i can safely say there were very good teachers at both, and i dont see how anyone could be more qualified for some.