yeah the grow tubs are GREAT, im using one double the size of the one in the orig. how to post so im hopping i can cram two plants in each, the papaya strain is an indica so if i put one of each in each tub i should have pleanty of room, thanks for all the help in advance, i picked up a copy of the bible about a month ago so with some luck and reading i dont anticipate running into too many problems, also forgot to mention in the first post that im running my lights on a 17/7 light schedual... now this is where im kind of conflicted, the bible said a 15 hour light period would produce more females but then like 5 pages later says that plants need 18 hours of light. what do most of you start your lights at? Ive seen that most do 18/6 so i figuer 17 is kind of between the two