chicago smoking ban, wtf !?!?

[MacWQ33]

Yeah it's like whatever for me. It's here and here for good...even if I was an everyday smoker I wouldn't have a problem, but that's just me.

And I was just saying that because someone said they should make non-smoking and smoking restaurants, that would be dumb.

MacWQ33 Reviewed by MacWQ33 on 05-02-2007. chicago smoking ban, wtf !?!? how the fuck can the government tell PRIVATELY owned buisnesses what they can or cant do in there own buisness? if you dont like the fact people are smoking in a resturant fucking dont go in there. dont fuckin punish everybody Rating: 5

[darth stoner]

i said it in the last cig thread and i'll say it again...

every ADDICTED smoker knows what it's doing to us... but it's so hard to just drop...

i think people think it's just as simple as dropping the cig and not picking them up.... believe me it's alot harder then that... a cig smoker, that has recently got on the path of quitting GREATLY resembles a crack-head that hasn't got his fix in a few days.... by 48 hours into no cigs, you're ready to do anything for a cig, even kill.... it's just that strong of an addiction.... it takes the strongest willed people to kick it for good...

no smoker smokes anymore cuz it makes them cool, or it gets them high or w/e... we're just addicted.... hopelessly addicted you could say... we know well what it's doing to us... it's not like there's some big secret that us smokers keep refusing to believe.... we plain well know what it's doing... the problem is it's one of the strongest, and wide spread deadly addictions in the world...

in short, it's not as easy as everyoen seems to think to quit... you don't just say 'i don't wanna do this anymore' and quit... if it were that easy, the only smokers would be the middle-high school kids that thinks it makes them look older and cooler...

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I read the above two sites on the night that I decided to quit for good. They helped enforce everything I already knew about the subject, and I would recommend it to anyone who's wanting to quit too. The only other factor that kept me motivated was that I was having trouble with my breathing and I knew this was due to tobacco smoking.

Now, a month later, I'm back to daily exercise, I no longer have breathing problems and I can smell and taste food better. I can't even understand why I didn't do this earlier.

It *IS* as easy as saying "I'm going to quit". You just need to be commited to yourself and ALWAYS keep in your mind the reason you've chosen to quit smoking.

And for us pot smokers, this also means not mixing tobacco with our green friend.

[slipknotpsycho]

i have tried to quit quite a few times... for some quitting comes easier... my grandma smoked for over 20 years, then one day just said i don't wanna do this again, and never picked another one up, never caved.... for me on the other hand, i've had over 20-30 attempts..... only two lasting more than 2 months, the longer (and last) being 3 months....

the last 5 i was committed.... and i know most will say it's an excuse, but the only reason i picked up smoking again last time, was my wife was hit by a car, and i had an hour long drive to the hosptial, half way there i was just freaking the fucking out, not knowing what to expect, how we're gonna pay for this etc etc.... i caved dramaticly, and ended up smoking again, never dropped it since (nearly a year ago now) my hair was coming out, there was no such thing as a panic attack, as i was in constant 'panic attack' mode... the only name for it would be 'panic living'....

not knowing what to expect when you got an hour drive to the hospital where your wife who was hit by a car, can drive you quite a bit insane.... needless to say, i was ready for anything that was 'stress reliving'

i hate not being able to breathe.... lately i've been noticing it alot too... i get winded carrying out the laundry basket to the car..... i get winded walking up 1 floor worth the steps... i fucking hate it.... i used to ride my bike completely across the city just for fun/having nothing else to do.... now i couldn't ride it 3 blocks without getting tired....

[darth stoner]

Sorry for the double post, but I want to clarify my position. The issue here is you not wanting to have tobacco forced upon you. That's perfectly reasonable. We are meant to have a 'freedom of life', I think staying away from carcinogens counts.

However, you have no need to enter a bar. A bar is the owner's property, and what you're saying is many of you have made the mistake of smoking, and because of that, feel you should have power over his property. It's true this applies to things such as schools, hospitals, parks, and stuff paid for by tax money (as the general public 'owns' it) but I don't know where you all get off on thinking you can tell people what to do with their property. If you don't want to be around it, go somewhere else.

If there's a demand for smoke-free restaurants and bars, there will be smoke-free restaurants and bars. It follows the core principles of capitalism, and seeing as how here in Ohio many places were non-smoking before the ban, I have no reason to believe the system doesn't work.

I'd try reading up on this a little Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and familiarize yourself with many of the core principles that were taken into account by the Framers. Might help your understanding some.

I consider myself very liberal, but thanks for the article.

That's exactly what I've been doing. I've quit going to certain places and hanging around with certain people that couldn't understand I wasn't up to getting nuked with smoke any more.

[darth stoner]

i have tried to quit quite a few times... for some quitting comes easier... my grandma smoked for over 20 years, then one day just said i don't wanna do this again, and never picked another one up, never caved.... for me on the other hand, i've had over 20-30 attempts..... only two lasting more than 2 months, the longer (and last) being 3 months....

the last 5 i was committed.... and i know most will say it's an excuse, but the only reason i picked up smoking again last time, was my wife was hit by a car, and i had an hour long drive to the hosptial, half way there i was just freaking the fucking out, not knowing what to expect, how we're gonna pay for this etc etc.... i caved dramaticly, and ended up smoking again, never dropped it since (nearly a year ago now) my hair was coming out, there was no such thing as a panic attack, as i was in constant 'panic attack' mode... the only name for it would be 'panic living'....

not knowing what to expect when you got an hour drive to the hospital where your wife who was hit by a car, can drive you quite a bit insane.... needless to say, i was ready for anything that was 'stress reliving'

i hate not being able to breathe.... lately i've been noticing it alot too... i get winded carrying out the laundry basket to the car..... i get winded walking up 1 floor worth the steps... i fucking hate it.... i used to ride my bike completely across the city just for fun/having nothing else to do.... now i couldn't ride it 3 blocks without getting tired....

Read these links I pasted man, you'll come to understand it is only an association in your brain that links smoking to coping with stressful situations.

For instance, I used to go for a smoke whenever I hit a "wall" during work stuff (computer related). It was like a ritual and seemed to help me concentrate and solve the problem back then. But if you think about it, the problem is still there, whether you had that smoke or not..

As you'll learn (same as I did) by reading about it, the hardest thing to break is the HABIT -- smoking in stress, after food, whatever your ritual is/was. That is the hardest part to break, and when you experience that, the chemical addiction to nicotine is long gone. I coped with this for the first few weeks by buying lots of gums, and whenever I felt like smoking a cig (even in social situations where you'd light up just for the sake of it), I had some gum, to replace the habit of getting a cig in these various situations.

Some more encoraging reading:
What happens to your body when you stop smoking

You can do it easily man, nicotine is just a dumb chemical with 0 IQ. You're the man there. If you say you can quit, then you can quit -- smoke the weed alone :P

[slipknotpsycho]

yeah, gum worked... but there's something else you don't know about me... since my last attempt to quit, i've had the rest of my teeth pulled... i can't chew gum atm... i'm still waiting for my dentures, before i had my bottom teeth, and the top were dentures....

gum worked goood for me, the only problem is in my current situation i can't take advantage of it...

believe me, i know how to quit, and i also know hte battle, and how bad i really want to quit...

if all goes well, in a couple of months or less i'll hav ea full mouth of teeth again, and can kick these cancer sticks and chew gum instead... right nwo i'ts a waiting game... i plan on quitting, i just have to wait til i'm equipped to do so..

[MacWQ33]

Just a theory for those having a hard time. What if you threw a lippa [dip] in instead. You would get the nicotine fix, without the actual smoking and lung damage. I know it's not a safe alternative [or so they say], but it's definitely a safer alternative. Then maybe wean yourself off that way...I know people who dip, and it's more like a habit like weed instead of a psych/physical addiction.

Just a suggestion.

[Little Boy]

Don't punish me with your nasty ass cigarette smoke while I'm trying to enjoy my meal. My state has the ban 100%, and I think it's great in all public places. Take your ass outside.

True dat! :rastasmoke:

[Little Boy]

where in Chicago are you from? I live fairly near to there...Saint Louis : )

[CanaDanKs Inc.]

Theres a few places in California trying to ban smoking in your house. It's insanity.

Actually when my roommate and I were looking for condos we found one where the owner prohibited smoking inside. And it's all over the place around here. Cali that is.