Evolution

[afghooey]

The link I posted is actually quite a good example of theistic evolution in practice. :3 (The compatibility of religious teachings with scientific ones).

And, just out of curiosity... do you accept anything as 100% fact? And if so, what?

afghooey Reviewed by afghooey on 05-01-2007. Evolution I am an atheist myself, but I would like to know what religious people think about evolution and other emerging sciences. I don't see how it can be said that evolution by natural selection isn't real. All the evidence is there. Looking at fossils you can see vestigial structures, parts that no longer work but worked in an ancestor. For instance, whales having hind legs, humans having tailbones, etc. Look at the embryo of a chicken and the embryo of a human in early stages. They look almost Rating: 5

[JMccorkle122]

Theory = A Idea that is supported by facts and logic

A Theory is not a irational idea or guess its a scientific idea. Einstiens Famouse eqaution e=mc2 is a theory. But we all know Mass and energy are the same in terms and logic ( MATH ) proves it. Yes evolution is a theory but it is not a uneducated guess and is prob true up to 95%

And how do u think u can get a cold more the once..... and why do u think we cant cure any viruses........ THEY EVOLVED

[Stemis516]

The link I posted is actually quite a good example of theistic evolution in practice. :3 (The compatibility of religious teachings with scientific ones).

And, just out of curiosity... do you accept anything as 100% fact? And if so, what?

o sure, mostly math and your basic physics and things of that sort....and the fact that i look out my window and i see a buliding, i know the buliding is there and everything of that sort

honestly, i still have beliefs though, just because something isnt proven in my opinion doesnt mean i do not, will not, or can not believe in it.....the point im stressing is that there are certain things which you like to call science, that i believe takes some faith to believe....any teacher or professor ive ever had in bio, physics, chemistry, any class u name it has taught evolution as a theory...something that is possible, even probable, but yet not accpeted 100% in the scientific community....sure, its accepted widely as the most logical theory as to how we got here, but it isnt accepted as a pure fact

im just very skeptical....i have my beliefs (theistic evolution for example) and even though i do believe in them, im wise enough to realize that i may be incorrect and another theory is possible...thats all

i think its unwise to just accept things the way they are just because someone says so or it backs ur personal belief, but u have to understand im not biased towards any group of people.....i think the athiest who accepts evolution as 100% fact is just as unwise as the born again who accepts genesis or any other part of the bible for that matter as 100% fact....it just appears like im playing devils advocate, well frankly because i am, and its just the audience im dealing with

[jdmarcus59]

how come no other animals or species have evolved into intelligent beings? did we just get lucky?


i humans havent touched every inch of this planent by any means....ud think that some other being would evolve and become intelligent and possibly challenge us

god said let us make man in are own inmage, not in form, but that man

would have a living soul, a eternal soul, animals do not.

[Stemis516]

thanks but id rather hear and athiests response

[jdmarcus59]

thanks but id rather hear and athiests response

you mean you would rather hear what YOU want to hear.

[Stemis516]

actually if uve been reading my posts, i happen to agree with you on most things, and im not an athiest

but nice try

[afghooey]

how come no other animals or species have evolved into intelligent beings? did we just get lucky?


i humans havent touched every inch of this planent by any means....ud think that some other being would evolve and become intelligent and possibly challenge us

Actually, there are other animal species that exhibit great intelligence. Whales and dolphins are among the best examples. The only reason that they haven't advanced technologically is because they have had no evolutionary need to do so (and because they don't have opposable thumbs). But they have relatively complex language and behaviors.

Elephants are another example. They, too, have a complex language, communicating through low-frequency infrasound that can't be picked up by human ears. They have been shown to exhibit many emotions including joy, fear, and even grief and mourning over the death of family members (which would implicate that they also experience love). Other primates, specifically the great apes, have shown such signs of intelligence, as well.

To say that humans are the only intelligent beings on this planet seems a bit egocentric, IMO.

[Nor.Cal Smoker]

Fact: Knowledge or information based on real occurrences...

We are basing evolution on the real occurrences we have documented, fossils, DNA evidence they all show this phenomenon we call evolution has and is occurring. Therefore, based on the definition of the word, evolution is a fact. Although we can never know for sure if thats the real definition of fact... god might have some super secret definition for it... probably along the lines of "Fact: totally made up bullshit that gets the population to act in accordance with a completely outdated and fucked up set of ethics and morals"
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Well Said, Possumdance

[Stemis516]

Actually, there are other animal species that exhibit great intelligence. Whales and dolphins are among the best examples. The only reason that they haven't advanced technologically is because they have had no evolutionary need to do so (and because they don't have opposable thumbs). But they have relatively complex language and behaviors.

Elephants are another example. They, too, have a complex language, communicating through low-frequency infrasound that can't be picked up by human ears. They have been shown to exhibit many emotions including joy, fear, and even grief and mourning over the death of family members (which would implicate that they also experience love). Other primates, specifically the great apes, have shown such signs of intelligence, as well.

To say that humans are the only intelligent beings on this planet seems a bit egocentric, IMO.

thats fair but how can u possibly justify setting the intelligence we have equal to the intelligence of monkeys, whales, dolphins or whatever...sure the examples you listed show that certain animals, probably most animals, have some form of intelligence, i never meant to say they had none at all but its clear that on some level they are far below humans and evolution doesnt explain it because it would make alot more sense under evolution if more than 1 species progressed as much as we have

and ya humans may not be the only intelligent beings, but we certainly are by far the most intelligent...so are u just saying we lucked out because we evolved first??? im curious as to how evolution attempts to explain this and human nature