Ok ....sorry I havent had the chance to email ya Jack, Kinda hectic withthe holidaze and such.............I have the neem oil and dont know what mixture I should be using.......it doesnt say......its just the bottle I got all whole foods.....and it isnt an extract.....its pure............I also got the pyrethrum too and would like to know abot its usage also..........gonna send a copy of this to your email.........Maybe we can talk later............Thx again bro............Tony