I need some help with my plants

[tony8it38]

A few more pics.............Tony

[hempheadjack]

A few more pics.............Tony

e-mail me,ill give you my address ,,you need some lighting,,look at bottom of leaves,,not blushing up,,but downn,,look at upper leaves,,pointing directly at light,,GREAT,,but,you are also in a bug plagued(not nothing bad twards you at all),i mean,,i see alot of open ways to get in there ,,yes??(bugs,,)they could even be in beneeth soil already,,eating your roots with larva,,,there is a grow store in frisco where you live,,growers choice hydroponics,,toll free number is 1-866-788-0765,,get there address and go buy pyrthiam,,and attain,,but,if you want,,i have a 400 hps,,75 dollars,,hood and ballest also,,i say pull the one you have your hand on pulling down ,,my first thought and impression is get it before they get you,,your inviroment,,and in my unpro opinion lighting,,but,if that was me,,which it isnt,,i would pull that one and it looked like a few others were ready,,are you wanting huge buds??or do you want a killer plant,,the plant is at its best when it first starts showing sighns of crystyls,,that is when it is most potent,,my years of harvesting and growing only my opinion only,,,a huge bud is great,,but a killer bud is a knockout...Jack,,good luck,,i dont think i helped that much ,except i also did see defanate spider mite pollution(overtaking plant fast)good luck,,,

[tony8it38]

Thx for the info Hemp.........I dont have your email..........mine is this handle plus that popular email extension...........yehaw..........lol............ what do I do with those products when I buy them and what type of inexpensive lighting should I have gotten......blease be specific as to type of light.......red blue spectrum ect.....Are halogen lights ok?..also where and what do you see that gives you the analysis that I have these mites.........I will scope them for sure.........I am told also from my bible for growers (Mj growers guide by Mel Franks) that soapy spray will do the trick.........then flush plant with h20......what do you think about that?.........send your email and we can chat further..............Thx again........Tony

[hempheadjack]

Thx for the info Hemp.........I dont have your email..........mine is this handle plus that popular email extension...........yehaw..........lol............ what do I do with those products when I buy them and what type of inexpensive lighting should I have gotten......blease be specific as to type of light.......red blue spectrum ect.....Are halogen lights ok?..also where and what do you see that gives you the analysis that I have these mites.........I will scope them for sure.........I am told also from my bible for growers (Mj growers guide by Mel Franks) that soapy spray will do the trick.........then flush plant with h20......what do you think about that?.........send your email and we can chat further..............Thx again........Tony

[email protected],,then ill give you my phone number,,i do recomend not using soapy soap,,i use neem oil,,it is 100 percent bullet proof,,soapy water just rinces off,,neem oil,,,rinces,protects and plain just keeps bugs away if used all time,,even on buds it does not hurt,,did you pull that one you were holding down,,i seen from far away,,if it were mine,,id pull that one,,also if you want..tie some away from light,,so bottom stems and leves can get light,,now for ,,you can do 400,,even 1000,,both red,HPS,oh yes,,when or if you use neem oil,,dont flush water on plant,,it will wash neem oil off,or,pinch bad leaves,,and hope it was just a little prob,,but i recomend better lighting,and bug protection,,also you being in bay area,it must get cold at night,,stunts growth,,never go under 65,,70,,never above 80 deg,,use fan if gets to hot,,use a tem gage heater if too cold,,it works great,,i have one ,it kicks in at 65 and stops at 80 deg,,good luck

[hempheadjack]

one more thing,i noticed that you have 2 plants in one small pot,,not recomended,,they will fight each other for survival,,hence,(root rights)one will be much better than the other,,one will just outrite show sighns of stress,,,

[tony8it38]

I found info on these below here........Havent had any luck on the attain though......does it goby another name?...........I will email ya later today so we can exchange contact info...........thx.......Tony

Pyrethrum/Pyrethrins

Pyrethrum is the most widely used botanical insecticide in the United States. The active ingredient, pyrethrin, is extracted from a chrysanthemum plant, grown primarily in Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania and Ecuador.

Most insects are highly susceptible to pyrethrin at very low concentrations. The compound acts rapidly on insects, causing immediate knock down. Flying insects drop almost immediately after exposure. Fast knock down and insect death don't, however, always go hand in hand; many insects recover after the initial knockdown phase.

Insect mortality is increased by mixing pyrethrins with a synergist, such as piperonyl butoxide (PBO) to create pyrethrum. PBO, however, is not certified to be used on organic crops. Growers, who want to meet organic certification standards, should consult with the Colorado Department of Agriculture before using pyrethrin products.

Pyrethrins are highly irritating to insects; as a result, they may be used as "flushing agents," causing insects to come out of hiding, a desirable circumstance when you need to identify an insect that is hiding in the turf grass such as grubs or sod web worm.

Pyrethrum is non-toxic to most mammals, making it among the safest insecticides in use. The Environmental Protection Agency has approved it for more uses than any other insecticide. It's sold under trade names that include Pyrenon, Red Arrow (pyrethrins/rotenone) and Pyrellin (Pyrethrins/rotenone). Pyrethrum has been assigned a CAUTION rating.

Pyrethroids are synthetic materials designed to imitate natural pyrethrum. They can be used on houseplants, but because they are synthetic, they aren't registered to use on organic crops.

Neem

Neem is a botanical pesticide derived from the neem tree, a native of India. This tree supplies at least two compounds, azadirachtin and salannin, that have insecticidal activity and other unknown compounds with fungicidal activity. The use of this compound is new in the United States, but neem has been used for more than 4,000 years for medicinal and pest control purposes in India and Africa. It is not highly toxic to mammals.

A neem-based pesticide, Margosan-O, has been shown to control gypsy moths, leaf miners, sweet potato whiteflies, western flower thrips, loopers, caterpillars and mealybugs. This product is labeled for use on ornamentals, foliage plants, trees, shrubs and other non-food crops.

Margosan-O works as an insect growth regulator. The treated insect usually can't molt to its next lifestage and dies. It also may deter egg laying. Do not expect a quick kill.

Neem also can be purchased under the trade name Bioneem (by Safer Products).

[hempheadjack]

I found info on these below here........Havent had any luck on the attain though......does it goby another name?...........I will email ya later today so we can exchange contact info...........thx.......Tony

Pyrethrum/Pyrethrins

Pyrethrum is the most widely used botanical insecticide in the United States. The active ingredient, pyrethrin, is extracted from a chrysanthemum plant, grown primarily in Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania and Ecuador.

Most insects are highly susceptible to pyrethrin at very low concentrations. The compound acts rapidly on insects, causing immediate knock down. Flying insects drop almost immediately after exposure. Fast knock down and insect death don't, however, always go hand in hand; many insects recover after the initial knockdown phase.

Insect mortality is increased by mixing pyrethrins with a synergist, such as piperonyl butoxide (PBO) to create pyrethrum. PBO, however, is not certified to be used on organic crops. Growers, who want to meet organic certification standards, should consult with the Colorado Department of Agriculture before using pyrethrin products.

Pyrethrins are highly irritating to insects; as a result, they may be used as "flushing agents," causing insects to come out of hiding, a desirable circumstance when you need to identify an insect that is hiding in the turf grass such as grubs or sod web worm.

Pyrethrum is non-toxic to most mammals, making it among the safest insecticides in use. The Environmental Protection Agency has approved it for more uses than any other insecticide. It's sold under trade names that include Pyrenon, Red Arrow (pyrethrins/rotenone) and Pyrellin (Pyrethrins/rotenone). Pyrethrum has been assigned a CAUTION rating.

Pyrethroids are synthetic materials designed to imitate natural pyrethrum. They can be used on houseplants, but because they are synthetic, they aren't registered to use on organic crops.

Neem

Neem is a botanical pesticide derived from the neem tree, a native of India. This tree supplies at least two compounds, azadirachtin and salannin, that have insecticidal activity and other unknown compounds with fungicidal activity. The use of this compound is new in the United States, but neem has been used for more than 4,000 years for medicinal and pest control purposes in India and Africa. It is not highly toxic to mammals.

A neem-based pesticide, Margosan-O, has been shown to control gypsy moths, leaf miners, sweet potato whiteflies, western flower thrips, loopers, caterpillars and mealybugs. This product is labeled for use on ornamentals, foliage plants, trees, shrubs and other non-food crops.

Margosan-O works as an insect growth regulator. The treated insect usually can't molt to its next lifestage and dies. It also may deter egg laying. Do not expect a quick kill.

Neem also can be purchased under the trade name Bioneem (by Safer Products).

it is great,,glad it is known,,and you posted ,,i use all time,,anyway,,attain is just like pyrethiam,,except it acts as a new and more potent to pryt,you no,,counter attack,,2 wks,,spray attain,,ammuned to pryt,,so we use attain,,,and or pryt,first,,attain first..so now i believe you know what im taking about in helping you out,,,,did you call the store,,g-natural is a insectacidal larvacide my extra special measure,,hehehehehence preparing room and soils)early in stage (way),,never have a problem again,,atleast i havent,,thats why i like my way and mixes,,,,,Jack

[tony8it38]

Ok ....sorry I havent had the chance to email ya Jack, Kinda hectic withthe holidaze and such.............I have the neem oil and dont know what mixture I should be using.......it doesnt say......its just the bottle I got all whole foods.....and it isnt an extract.....its pure............I also got the pyrethrum too and would like to know abot its usage also..........gonna send a copy of this to your email.........Maybe we can talk later............Thx again bro............Tony

[hempheadjack]

Ok ....sorry I havent had the chance to email ya Jack, Kinda hectic withthe holidaze and such.............I have the neem oil and dont know what mixture I should be using.......it doesnt say......its just the bottle I got all whole foods.....and it isnt an extract.....its pure............I also got the pyrethrum too and would like to know abot its usage also..........gonna send a copy of this to your email.........Maybe we can talk later............Thx again bro............Tony

please watch out for neem oil whole,,you got the best,,please use 3 or 4 cap fulls in a pint of water,,no more no less,,that will burn leaves if sprayed directly on plants without propper application,,also tell me what size of room you will be spraying,,that shit is money,,also is neem hard,,if so,,please only let set under warm water for a long time,,,till neem is a oily base,,not hard Jack

[tony8it38]

Thx ....are u saying dont spray it directly on the plants?..........the room I will be moving it to in a bit is approx 10x10x12...........what areas and how should I treat?.........as always than you.......Tony