Neem oil took them out for me,this was my first year using it and this year has been exceptionally bad w/grasshoppers,thrips,whiteflies.Soap and water w/a touch of oil,tobbacco juice and garlic juice are a few ways to keep the thrips at bay.Just 2x's a week and I leave them be the last couple weeks best I can,use my hands and eyes,pickin out the bugs,lol.:thumbsup::hippy: