Can we agree on this?

[darth stoner]

I think it all comes down to faith. You either believe something or you don't. There are no facts. I think that for every scientific fact the athiest provides, there's a counter from a different scientist that makes science fit with the word of God. Since we weren't around at the beginning, we have no clue on how we got here. What we think may have happened to start it all comes down to us trusting in someone else. Agreed?

:beatdeadhorse: It always comes down to faith. Some put their faith in man, and others in God.

If you walk inside my house after coming from the mud path and steal my cookies, I wouldn't have needed to be there when you walked in. Your footprints would let me know someone was inside, and that someone walked in from the mud path.

Your assertion that for every scientific fact there is a scientist that lines it with the word of god is also wrong. No real scientist would say the earth is not about 4.6 BILLION years old or that humans did not descend from apes. These are FACTS, not THEORY.

Then you go after the fact that evolution is "just a theory". Well, gravity is also just a theory, thermodynamics is just a theory too. Yet these "just a theory" (and many others) work well enough to build pretty much everything you see on your daily life.

Try to build a plane with the knowledge the bible gives you. Does it work ? No.

Try to build a plane with the "theories that could be wrong". What happens? We build planes, and even better planes, and even better planes than previously thought. The fact that's it's a THEORY doesn't make it wrong.

The thing with religious people is that you take gaps in scientific knowledge and attribute it to god. You know, like ancient egypt people who said Ra was the god that made the sun rise, or in ancient greece where poseidon was the god of the seas.

It's like:
"oh you can't explain where matter came from? GOD!!"
"oh you can't explain how life started? GOD!!"

But..
"If God was there before everything else, then who created god ? And who created god's creator?" ad infinitum

--> "He's the alpha and the omega!!!"

Right. PLEASE!

darth stoner Reviewed by darth stoner on 05-05-2007. Can we agree on this? I think it all comes down to faith. You either believe something or you don't. There are no facts. I think that for every scientific fact the athiest provides, there's a counter from a different scientist that makes science fit with the word of God. Since we weren't around at the beginning, we have no clue on how we got here. What we think may have happened to start it all comes down to us trusting in someone else. Agreed? :beatdeadhorse: It always comes down to faith. Some put their faith Rating: 5