here a few pics for ya latewood...they are in 8 in. pots, i tranplanted the 4 biggest ones into 16 in. pots last nite...but here's the pics from bout a week ago...they have all grown about 2-3 in. in the last few days...now that my ph problem seems to have neutralized...the plants are much greener now...but i haven't got a chance to take fresh pics