that particular method was the same i learned from whiterhino or someone with a name like that...

i never thought to use a pen to extract lesser ammounts... i had only previously known of pvc pipe and about an oz of weed or more...

i did the extraction with a pensful (about a joint or so) and put all that i got on a paper, and rolled up a j...

i was coughing the whole way through a good sign...