Racerx's G13 3000watt recirculating DWC grow

[BlazeIdo]

I think these airstones work great and thats all I said. Im tired of people looking for a way to put down peoples shit instead of going, oh that might work pretty well. An open air line wouldnt create as much surface agitaiton. Give me a break dude. Im not tryin to OUT DO you. chill. I wont have to replace my airstone for years to come. Thats something I think is worth it. Try em out people. Peace

[BlazeIdo]

and 0 percent clogging as well. which is pretty damn important in my book. I dont want my girls loosing oxygen ever!!

[Racerx]

I think these airstones work great and thats all I said. Im tired of people looking for a way to put down peoples shit instead of going, oh that might work pretty well. An open air line wouldnt create as much surface agitaiton. Give me a break dude. Im not tryin to OUT DO you. chill. I wont have to replace my airstone for years to come. Thats something I think is worth it. Try em out people. Peace

You are the one who needs to chill Blaze. I was not attacking you at all so relax. I am pointing out that an open airline, is the best way to go if you dont mind the noise. There is absolutely no possibility of clogging and there is no possibility of not receiving the 100% efficiency of the pump. There is no more significant dissolved oxygen available in small bubbles as there are in large bubbles. And surface agitation? No offense but youve got to be kidding me. What could agitate the surface more; a large bubble or a small bubble? There is no less or more spray with small bubbles as there are with large bubbles. There is no need for anything on the end of your line. If you must have something and you prefer to not just replace it with a 99 cent piece every 3 months, then your idea sounds great. Aside from that, people need to get off the notion that small bubbles are some how better.

If you want the proof yourself, please do a side by side grow and then, once again if you dont mind the extra noise, you wont use anything but an open airline. I could show you endless pictures, growth rates, etc and you wouldn't know which one had an airstone or bubbling thing and which one had an open airline. If anything...the open airline will have MORE oxygen available because its not being restricted by small openings. Im not saying your method doesnt work dude, of course it works, Ive grown trees with airstones. Ive also grown the same trees with the same yield with open airlines, so that is what i am argueing. Everyone is caught up with small bubbles and airstones and its just extra money you dont need to be spending.

EDIT: I will also add that airstones are like nutrients ok? I only use Grow Micro and Bloom, 3 part, no additives anymore. I yield the same and sometimes more then my friends who grow the same strain and use more additives. Of course this may be for other reasons as well, but it is physical proof I can see that even though I dont use additives, I can get a better yield or atleast the same as people who do. This is the same notion as an airstone, where it is just one more thing you dont need to deal with and spend money on...and you will get the same results. You may not get better results, but if you get the same, then your saving money and time and annoyance. Now nutrients are a little different because i believe some additives might actually be able to help you...but i ONLY believe that they will help to any degree when you have every single other aspect of your grow completely dialed.


Got our first roots yesterday, I am happy. This is when the plants began to take advantage of the aeroponic environment, and it will only be a matter of a couple days before the roots reach down into the nutrient solution, and then boom, we get 2"+ growth a day.

[BlazeIdo]

Apologies RacerX, i was a bit tired and irritated when I wrote that. I am about to switch back to the straight 3 part. oh the simplicity!! Peace

[santacruz_organic]

looking good racerx! how is that hydro system treating you? im thinking about starting a hydro setup but am not shure what system to use. i was thinking about trying out one of those aquamist systems. what do you think would be a good system?

[Racerx]

looking good racerx! how is that hydro system treating you? im thinking about starting a hydro setup but am not shure what system to use. i was thinking about trying out one of those aquamist systems. what do you think would be a good system?

Is the Aquamist mainly just an aeroponic system? Thats what it looks like to me. I think they can work very...very well. However for a larger area I dont think it is worth the trouble. I would either do a table (so simple) with flood/drain or do a recirculating system like I have. After that, then maybe step into aeroponics but try something a little simpler at first. Youve got a nice place to do your stuff and I bet you dont have heat problems. You could do a 4x8 foot tray or 2 4x4 trays on the same reservoir under your 2 1000s and grow like 200 plants and yield close to a half ounce off each one. Howd you like that? If your gonna do hydro, just make sure you assemble it yourself. It always saves money and lets you improve on the design to better fit your specific needs. Let me know if you need help.

And we are loving the recirc DWC. With the water cooler, the growth is still the fastest I have ever seen. You get the aeroponic-like environment from the massive bubbles, but you also get the benefit of a lot more water (holds pH and temp more stable and less likliehodd of pathogens) and a solid nutrient solution like an ebb and flow. There is abundence of all the major things needed for plant growth, so the plant always has as much as it can take.

[BlazeIdo]

How do you handle the electricity with 4200 watts of light? Is it diverted?

[doco]

heya RacerX, glad to see you starting back up again. I was glued to your last thread and will be to this one as well.

What is the make & model of the air conditioner you are using? I did a search last week for recirculating air conditioners and came up with a goose egg.

[BlazeIdo]

Im also interested in which air conditioners are recirculating. I'm looking at the surpentown 9000 btu portable air conditioner which has a great energy efficiency rating and requires no permanent installation. I'm not sure if it would exhause Co2 or odor. Anyone with vast ac knowledge know how portable ac's exhaust hot air, or even regular ac's. Do they draw air from the room? I dont want to be blowing all my Co2 and delightful aromas outside!!

[LOC NAR on probation]

Most A/C just recirculate the air. Some larger ones draw in fresh air but do not exhaust it. Only the heat goes out. Portables have to cool the heat they give off also, maybe more work and power consumption. You still need to intake and exhaust fresh air and bring in C02