question to the faithful

[Delta9]

Heavy Metal!
Rob Halford has returned.

[FrenchInhale]

I think think delta you are right about the church and money. I am a christian, BUT I don't go to church nor do I agree with what the church thinks... I like to think of myself as a renegade christian with my own personal beliefs... but I still hold true to the bible.

[Delta9]

I get carried away sometimes. It's just hierarchy of The Church seems to me to be a bunch of materialistic people whom cover themselves with fancy dress with gold just as Muslims do. Its like when Christians rebelled against the Roman government the Jews colaborated with the Roman government and now Christians have collaborated with the U.S. government with the Aim of a world order under the church.

[Delta9]

I cannot be misunderstood that what our government does is wrong. It is not wrong. We need sources of nuclear power. But as the Native Americans were stripped of there land and wealth in the name of The Lord so to the American people be stripped of their rights if we are not careful.

[Delta9]

To as they say not as they do.

[Delta9]

I vote for Judas

[Delta9]

It is the strength and purity
It is the True Aryan Nation that will up-lift.
It's of Chrome and Steel.
Of Brass and Leather.
And it must go on.
It must go on forever.

[F L E S H]

Here's a little something I read about in a book written by a former Anglican Priest:

In the first 2 centuries, the birth of Jesus was celebrated in the spring. December 25 was also the birthday of millions of other divinities or religious figures, Horus (Ancient Egyptian), Dionysus (Ancient Greeks), Mithras (Ancient Persians), and countless others.

It's funny how one of the central images of Christianity has the 'Virgin' Mary holding baby Jesus, and yet this image has existed for thousands of years before in Ancient Egypt With Isis holding her baby Horus (also a virgin birth, I might add).

Christianity is essentially plagiarizing Ancient Egyptian religion, and some elements of other religions too. The Church fathers of the 3rd-4th Century AD practically appropriated the myths and legends of other religions as their own, and took them away from the realm of myth and made them History.

This phenomenon serves to explain a lot of the religious situation today. We agree that fundamentalism is taking what's written in the Bible or the Qu'ran literally. This stems directly from a decision made almost 2,000 years ago. Before Christianity, the myth of Creation existed in similar forms among the Egyptians and other cultures, yet they understood that it was a legend, a myth from which we are NOT supposed to look for absolute truth, but only moral and spiritual truth.

In fact, this was the main criticism of Pagans towards Christians, that they were dumbing down millenia of ancient wisdom, deliberately lying to their followers, and applying a completely literal meaning to texts which were never meant to be taken literally.

This is all fact, ladies and gentlemen, not conjecture. Go to Egypt and on the ruins of the temple of Luxor there are many depictions of Isis and her baby Horus. Oh, by the way, Horus had other names, such as Iusu (jesus, anyone?) and mummies were always found with the letters KRST inscribed on them, 2,000 years before 'Christ' as we know it ever existed. There are many texts still existing today written by the Church fathers (St Augustine, Eusebius, St Jerome, and others) where they outright say that it is necessary to hide the truth from their followers because they're too stupid to understand any other, and giving them too much knowledge is dangerous.

Just think about these things, even you want to refute them. I am not advocating atheism instead of religion, I am just trying to make people aware that we do not live in a vacuum, and that fighting over religion is Ridiculous. We are all connected, to ourselves and to nature. We just need to wake up and cast out the liars who are still trying to pull the wool over our eyes and keep it there.

[Nullific]

At times I think religions were all jokes created to see how many sheep would follow.

[seeker]

i used to be a christian and now im a agnostic. i lost my faith in god due to mostly the bad things i see happening all around the world.

i have a question to all christians how do you reconcile a belief in a merciful god with the millions of children dying of aids in africa and the innocent people all over the world who suffer and die needlessly? how does a child dying of starvation fit into gods plan? every christian rants against those who support reproduction rights as 'baby killers' why dont you rant and rave against god who allows millions of children to die from hunger and disease daily?

i dont beleive in a merciful God, i believe in a wise God who know that pain is the best teacher and that the only way man will ever become whole inside is if we can come together and help one another instead of waiting for a god to do it for us at the end of times.

i beleive in a Jah who gives us examples of ways to live, through greate saviors and teachers like Jesus, Ghandi, Marley, Mother Teresa,
Tupac, Mohammed and so on.

The only person i would rant against is one who whines that God doesnt exist because there is suffering in the world while he sits around smoking his weed and whining about its quality, living in a land such as America or England and giving nothing back to the world he sees hurting, whether it be the bum on the street or teh dying aids child in africa.

I'd like to ask the author of this thread if he has ever gone and helped these children, has ever held the hand of one dying of hunger and looked into their eyes and prayed for them, has done anyhting real to help someone before he said there is no God. No one has any right to complain about a problem that they have not tried to fix.

no offense kid, but fuck that philosophy. get over it, everyone feels pain but you still ahve to get off your ass and live.

~~pura vida friends~~
~seeker(of Jah and love)~