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04-17-2007, 01:02 AM #1
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Well I have never used my home defense gun for defense. I hope I' never put into that position. I buy most of guns for sporting. Mostly trap and skeet, and I just recently bought a remington 700 .30-06 for target shooting.
guitar_player882006 Reviewed by guitar_player882006 on . gun control (really) LEAVE OUT INSULTS, MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT, BUT BE CIVIL. i made this thread cuz it's obvious everyone has their peice to speak on this, especially after today's events. so bring those arguments here... from this point on, lets leave the VT thread alone, other then to express condolonces or share stories relating to it (family members, friends, ect directly involved in the event) there's a good possibility alot of people lost someone today, and that thread shouldn't be continually litered with Rating: 5
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04-17-2007, 01:05 AM #2
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correction "I hope I'm never put into that position"
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04-17-2007, 01:12 AM #3
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I dunno but in my opinion, the people that think guns that should be banned in the US, really arent thinking too straight. Think of how many people that wouldnt give up there guns, it just wouldnt work. Incidents like Waco and Ruby Ridge would happen daily if the government tried enforcing it.
Hey hey...smoke weed everyday! :jointsmile:
LEGALIZE DONT CRIMINALIZE
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04-17-2007, 01:15 AM #4
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Very true. Just the fact that I have one handy gives me peace of mind, it may be false peace because you still have to get to your gun if someone stomps in your front door, and having grandkids around, I can't keep it that close, but if an intruder knew that all law abiding citizens could not have guns, don't you think there would be a lot more home invasions? The fear of not knowing what is on the other side of that door keeps a lot of scumbags at bay.
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
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04-17-2007, 01:44 AM #5
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People can not be free unless they are allowed to bear arms. Look at what hitler did in the 30s. He took all guns away under the guise of more safety. And then he killed 6 million jews because they were law abiding and had no guns to defend themselves with.
If you outlaw guns only the criminals will have guns because they don't care. Like in england, law abiding citizens dont have guns but some criminals do. How is a law abiding englishman supposed to defend himself against a dude with a gun when he doesnt have one?
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04-17-2007, 01:54 AM #6
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i don't own one currently, but i do want to, i like guns they can be great fun at the target range (i've always been into guns, my grandma gave me my frist pellet gun at 5) tho i see them as a last resort, mostly i see them as a form of entertainment... it takes awhile to learn to shoot a gun, and accurately... believe me i'ts not just pointing in the general direction... for long shots you gotta take into account speed/velocity of the bullet, and recoil for example.. shooting a pellet gun accurately over 30 yards is even harder, since it's weaker...
Originally Posted by ATrain
i've known alot of people (and it's evident durring shootouts) that people think you just point a barrel at someone and pull the trigger and that solves the problem...
shooting a gun is easy.. shooting a gun accurately takes a certain ammount of skill.... for example, point a 9mm at someone's head a bit downrange, and that bullet is gonna sail right over their head... the recoil is actually amazing o.0 it's hard to think such a small device has such recoil power...
anyways, i've known countless people that owned guns, and thank whoever.. they haven't had to pull one on anyone yet... that's the ideal situation.. as H4H said.. it's better to have it and not need it, then to not have it, and need it....
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04-17-2007, 01:55 AM #7
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tehre's apparently a couple here who expect you to run up on them and start beating their ass... or say "hey! he doesn't have a gun.. i guess i need to put this away and make things fair"
Originally Posted by halo
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04-17-2007, 02:27 AM #8
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gun control would never work in america. its that simple. it dosen't matter if your with it or against it you have to admit its impossible do disarm a country that took up arms, personal weapons not military/militia issue, and made this an actual country. and just to touch on the whole VT issue. its a very sad day all around. not only did more than 30 young people lose there lives, hundreds more were torn to peices. these were people that were just begining to figure life out, and were getting ready to shift it in to high gear. but not only is it a sad day for the victims, its a sad day for the young man that felt he had no other option then to take the lives of his peers and eventually his own. i know the general consensus is going to be that he was scum, and i in no way condone anything he did, but when you get to the point of doing that it has to be a very lonley place. not only do i share my condolences with the victims and their families, but my heart goes out to his family as well.
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04-17-2007, 02:36 AM #9
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im glad most of you are in favor of guns. that b eing said, all you gun owners need to give this some attention.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/409898348
any PA gun owners out there need to call the state rep.
HOUSE BILL 30 P.N. 55
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04-17-2007, 04:17 AM #10
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I gave you 3 examples.......
Originally Posted by ATrain
Not only that, I asked you some questions regarding your ignorant statements and you just disappeared for a while, go back and read.
Dad pulled gun on robbery attempt, mom shot poisonous water snake in back yard, Sister stopped attempted rape robbery by holding up gun in rear window.
Actually everyone......my very good friends father was a clerk at a convenience store in the 70's. He got robbed, was shot, shot back, killed the guy, and almost died as ambulance came. He said he knew that if he fell asleep he would die.........now go repeat what others tell you so you can feel like you know something. You are cool now. You have an opinion about a subject now.
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