Quote Originally Posted by BUZz UK
to anyone defending legal guns in this thread, WHAT THE FUCK? YOU RETARDS. If he had a knife, do you honestly think he could've stabbed 42 people?! Get fucking real, you only have to look at the amount of shooting deaths to see your country has gone wrong on the gun laws.

i think you miss the point

if you're going to impose severe gun laws, you must make it so that criminals cannot get them. for that to happen guns would practically have to be completely removed from society. and that's impossible. it would make it harder for criminals to get them, but it would make it hardest for honest folk to get them to defend themselves. the amount of smuggling would be unbelievable

don't get me wrong, i don't see any reason for assault weapons, and guns that have no other purpose than killing people to be legal; and i'd like the corrupt manufacturers who cater to criminals to be put behind bars

but in this case it doesn't seem that assault weapons were even used.

you could easily make the point that if another student had a gun then they could have taken the perp out and ended it; the length of time this went on, and the helplessness of the students, faculty, even police is what is staggering me


personally, i'd like all guns to be illegal and gone from the earth. i'd gladly hunt with a bow and arrow. i'd also remove atom bombs, chemical weapons, hell, everything that is made for killing people. the problem is that we can't do it.


so what do you do? if you outlaw guns those restrictions tend to come upon the people who would use them for protection, who acquire them LEGALLY. criminals and psychopaths can easily find them on the black market, anywhere in the world.

i think that the reason we have these killings in America has a lot more to do with our culture than our gun laws. i really can't spell it out, i can't put my finger on it, but there is a something severe and inhuman in our culture. in opposition to somewhere like canada, that is just more at ease. there is no ease in america. it is a land of dissatisfaction and a constant demand to succeed, succeed, succeed. all that being said, i don't claim to have my finger on the pulse. i don't know if i can really explain it, and i don't think we yet know why this person did what he did. if anything, i'd say that we, as a people, have lost a lot of our vision of the beauty and sanctity of human life. we've traded it for sex (and an oppressive demand to be attractive), money, popularity, and power

i think gun laws are important and necessary, but i doubt that that is the issue here

all my words are cheap, because there's nothing i can say to encapsulate the lives of these people who are now no longer living.


R.I.P. your lives were beautiful, and so will your memories