dude okay this is what you gotta do

when your rolling it, before you start anything else, push the side of the paper faceing you onto the other side behind it.. so the weed is like hammocked in the middle. and then repeatedly roll it up and down until the weed takes shape of a cylindar. eventually the shape should be good enough so taht you can just wrap the paper over the weed like a burrito and roll it up, lick it and stick it all the time keeping it as tight as it was from the start.

if you do taht you will have it i guarentee
Yeah like this:

Quote Originally Posted by twentysac
after you put the bud in the paper, but before you fold the paper over, touch the two sides of the paper togather. you should have basically a folded paper with bud in ther middle. roll the paper up and down in your fingers. this rolls the bud into a tight little bunch all along the fold of the paper. then make try to roll it up. basically the bud has to be in a tight tube like row inside the paper before you start to roll. thats the way i get em tight. aw hell, after reading that it might not make any sence if you haven't seen it done before. anybody else out there that knows what i mean and might be able to explain it a litlle better?