use a philly if u wanna roll it like a j, or do the old fasion dutch way, make sure u split the cancer paper off on the second tabacoo leaf inside, the outer leaf, steam the bitch, fold it and then split it, so u dont have that much wen u begin to wrap it around the already rolled innner leaf, the other leaf is the trick to making it burn nice, sometimes i smoke dutches with just the inner leaf, it takes skill to master but i love that shit, i duno why......i can also role with just the outer leaf which requires no splitting, those mothfuckas r my masterpieces