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To all........if you want to pick out a group to rip on, etc........fine. IF you desire to pick out a single person in here with unwarrented insults you'll be shown the door.
YES~!! thank you and as there are no gray areas the US army is in THE WRONG!!! THE "INSURGFENTS" ARE DEFENDING.. THEY ARE IN THE RIGHT!~
FUCK YOUR TROOPS! VICTORY TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE CAPITALIST EMPIRE AND THE WAR-MACHINE
So whats life like in the Sudan? Is pot legal there. It's always nice to hear a perspective from a country in the general area of the conflicts the USA puts us into. I'm pretty sure your country is on our list of suspects, most are. Do you live by Kartoum, or on the red sea. I'm always interested in hearing from other countries, we are pretty brainwashed in the good old USA. They try and keep much of the real news from around the world from us. I can understand why you're so anti-American, but let me say this: It's the government you should dislike not the people. there are here as I'm sure over there a lot of good hard working people that wish this government would stop it's world policeman role and just take care of our own people. Best of luck to you and as the mod said, take your anger out on groups and governments, not individuals.
I'd feel a hell of a lot better if they stopped the slaughter of our young men and women and let the Iraqis fight their own battles.]
So after invading their nation, slaughtering hundreds of thousands of their people, and destabalizating their country, it's now fair to just pull out and "let the Iraqis fight their own battles"? Sorry, but under Saddam there was order and law and none of this insurgent crap would have been tolerated. America went in and gave criminals and murderer's the run of the place, now you want to give them full run of the place? It's easy to say "let them fight among themselves", but it's America's intervention that caused the fighting in the first place, and now it's America's responsibility to fulfill their promise to the Iraqi people. They already did a great job pissing off the middle east the first time they told the Iraqi's to rise up against Saddam with impending liberation, then left them high and dry to be killed/tortured/imprisoned when it didn't happen. You can't just destabalize the whole region now and say "well, it's your mess now".
BTW Mr. Growinforthefuture, You folks have a shitpotful of trouble in your own country, does Darfur ring a bell, Janjaweed etc..... I think you should look to your government for some improvements before going off on ours, we'll take care of dissing our own govt. At least we can do that without fear of being shot, for now.
So after invading their nation, slaughtering hundreds of thousands of their people, and destabalizating their country, it's now fair to just pull out and "let the Iraqis fight their own battles"? Sorry, but under Saddam there was order and law and none of this insurgent crap would have been tolerated. America went in and gave criminals and murderer's the run of the place, now you want to give them full run of the place? It's easy to say "let them fight among themselves", but it's America's intervention that caused the fighting in the first place, and now it's America's responsibility to fulfill their promise to the Iraqi people. They already did a great job pissing off the middle east the first time they told the Iraqi's to rise up against Saddam with impending liberation, then left them high and dry to be killed/tortured/imprisoned when it didn't happen. You can't just destabalize the whole region now and say "well, it's your mess now".
I'm sure you have a plan, What is it? Does it involve any canadian help, or just criticism. The war is lost. time to leave!!! BTW who ever said war was fair?
So after invading their nation, slaughtering hundreds of thousands of their people, and destabalizating their country, it's now fair to just pull out and "let the Iraqis fight their own battles"? Sorry, but under Saddam there was order and law and none of this insurgent crap would have been tolerated. America went in and gave criminals and murderer's the run of the place, now you want to give them full run of the place? It's easy to say "let them fight among themselves", but it's America's intervention that caused the fighting in the first place, and now it's America's responsibility to fulfill their promise to the Iraqi people. They already did a great job pissing off the middle east the first time they told the Iraqi's to rise up against Saddam with impending liberation, then left them high and dry to be killed/tortured/imprisoned when it didn't happen. You can't just destabalize the whole region now and say "well, it's your mess now".
I agree with mrdevious, going in was absolutely wrong but leaving now would be worse. "Sorry we fucked up your country, now you deal with it" . This war has seriously fucked up our image abroad and if we were to bail out now, and everything go to shit, it would be disastrous. That being said, I do feel that Georgie's current plan is getting us nowhere fast. This isn't a war of attrition, we are never going to kill enough insurgents to make them stop. They're never going to wave the white flag then sit down at a table, along with a gloating George Bush, and sign surrender papers. We need to redefine what "win" means at this point. Winning should mean the Iraqi's are better off when we leave than when we got there, period. Whether or not that ends up being a high point on Dubya's resume really shouldn't matter.
To all........if you want to pick out a group to rip on, etc........fine. IF you desire to pick out a single person in here with unwarrented insults you'll be shown the door.
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
Ok, fair enough. Groups of people like growinforthefuture, who wish our troops harm and victory to the insurgents, can all fuck themselves.
Ok, fair enough. Groups of people like growinforthefuture, who wish our troops harm and victory to the insurgents, can all fuck themselves.
For the record........my statement wasn't in regards to that post but to another members who is currently on a vacation.
When I first read the comment made I was undecided how to deal with it....being from the "right" I didn't want to come across one sided in here. It seems though with the feedback given it not only offended me but the middle and a bit on the left also.
These soldiers volenteered to do a job that most people don't have the balls to do. They don't pick the missions but follow the orders and I find comments on this level completely disrespectful and in the future will NOT be tolorated!
If you want to badmouth the country, her politics, leaders.........great, BUT show respect for those that HAVE TO follow the orders.
P4B i totally agree with you on this one.Nobody should bad mouth the soldiars in Iraq because they are only following orders its not their fault that they are in this shit whole called Iraq.Yes theire are crimes comitted by U.S soldiars in Iraq but thats not our job to judge them all.I hope every American kid gets out of their in one peace.