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Where would you get your oil from if you nuked the middle east?OH no were going to have the yanks storming our borders better bring your parkas and touques.But at least you wont have to deal with muslim fanatics,just crazy drunk canucks......have a good one and remember dick cheney before he dicks you
wait wait...so you're saying that America can not be attacked by terrorists so long as we're in a war with Iraq? Fuck that shit. You're wrong :thumbsup:
Iv'e got to agree.We are going to get to a point where our military resources in Iraq,Afganastan,maybe Iran soon, will almost certainly leave our home shores less secure and protected,simply because manpower and resources will be depleted here at home. North Korea, Iran, hell even Cuba , can just sit back and wait until we are less able to properly defend the U.S.A.
I don't think we should spend one more minute in Iraq. We should bring our troops home NOW. As long as you are at war with an enemy who is willing to sacrifice they"re own lives on the premis of a "Holy"war,or a civil war,wich is now Iraq,you can not win.We need to concentrate on fully and agressively securing and defending our borders.All it takes is one rogue nation to push the button.And then what? Nuclear winter.Mass casualty"s,immediatly and for generations to come.We need to be able to defend from,and respond to ANY agression,ANY time.We cant do that with our resources stretched to thin.We need to remember the Viet Nam war.The time for change is now.Before it"s too late.:s4: :apachecopter:
1) Complete isolationism; close off all borders and trade with the middle east, anybody of the Muslim faith in the U.S. currently speaking hate will be deported.
2) Inform each country in the middle east to clean up it's backyard of these assclowns or here comes the stone age. NO exceptions! No need for troops on the ground.......just take out the entire infrastructure.(My own personal choice.......I knew you'd be confused as to which I'd pick):
3) Talk, yap, debate out all this common knowledge shit until things progress to the point that it's unstoppable........i.e. Iran/Nukes...this will ultimately be the decision.:wtf:
Have a good one!:s4:
So.... It's isolationism or the bomb. I guess if I had to make a choice, I'd go with isolationism, but I'd rather see an intelligent debate between the opposing parties, sans radicals on both sides. If you see the muslim extremests as radicals, you must by virtue of the confrontational nature of Bushco, see them as radicals also. If the radicals were taken out of the picture, I'm pretty sure you could get some peace deals worked out, IE Nancy Pelosis' intent on her trip. Intelligent men most always view peace as the best solution and only use violence as a last resort. I'm pretty sure that not many will argue that we have both the baddest weapons and the best means of delivery, the key is how to avoid using them.
There are many parallels to the way we fucked up in Vietnam to the way we are fucking up in Iraq. It's sad to see that our politicians can't learn from the past.
- We are in a war because of unrealistic fears: Vietnam-the spread of communisn, Iraq-terrorism (wmd's ) .
- Like Vietnam, we are making the mistake that this is a war of attrition. If we kill enough of them we'll win.
- In our efforst to save the people we are suposedly helping, we've made their lives even more fucked up.
-People who should be on our side now see us as "occupiers" not saviors.
-We continue to think we have all the answers and know better than the locals.
-Due to the fact that we've done such a shitty job,and the war has become so unpopular back home, we'll leave before it's finished. "Sorry we fucked up your country. Bummer. Now we're going home. Have fun fixing it"
but I'd rather see an intelligent debate between the opposing parties, sans radicals on both sides. If you see the muslim extremests as radicals, you must by virtue of the confrontational nature of Bushco, see them as radicals also. If the radicals were taken out of the picture, I'm pretty sure you could get some peace deals worked out, IE Nancy Pelosis' intent on her trip.
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
3) Talk, yap, debate out all this common knowledge shit until things progress to the point that it's unstoppable........i.e. Iran/Nukes...this will ultimately be the decision.:wtf:
I don't think that Pelosi is going to have any better luck with Iran than the ACTUAL world leaders have had but what the hell..........lets give Iran more time to develope their plan........
Just one question. Who of you REALLY believes the iraq is the source of the terrorism, instead a source of oil?
Don't kid yourself Coelho, Iraq is a huge source for terrorism. Maybe it wasn't 4 years ago but now, thanks to the extraordinary vison and leadership of George W. Bush, it's a hotbed of terrorist activity. Forget about Osama Bin Laden, Dubya's the best thing to happen to Al Queada since instant hummus
Don't kid yourself Coelho, Iraq is a huge source for terrorism. Maybe it wasn't 4 years ago but now, thanks to the extraordinary vison and leadership of George W. Bush, it's a hotbed of terrorist activity. Forget about Osama Bin Laden, Dubya's the best thing to happen to Al Queada since instant hummus
Just wait, here a stat. in WW1 there was a 7% chance you would just shoot anyone you saw ahead of you or what knot. during WW2 there was a 48% chance you would Shoot someone right away and not ask who or whats going on. Iraq war 98% Shoot on the Spot, one young man after killing a man,woman and child said " just like killing cockroaches."
Just one question. Who of you REALLY believes the iraq is the source of the terrorism, instead a source of oil?
As has been said a few times: Iraq was not a terrorist state untill we upset the apple cart. Our being there has created an opportunity for all muslims that hate America to come join the killing fields. There were no real terrorists there before we went there. I'm sure the Iraqis didn't really care for us much with our no fly zones, sanctions, and increased rate of cancer and child deformity from "depleted Uranium" shells used in Gulf 1, but they were not plotting to terrorize us. We've opened Pandoras Box and don't know how to close it. It's time to leave and let them kill each other. The right says caos will reign, what the hell do you have now. I say let the caos begin, Oh, I mean continue without us.
As has been said a few times: Iraq was not a terrorist state untill we upset the apple cart.
I guess paying the familys of martyrs $25,000 doesn't count for much these days..........
Or the invasion of Kuwait..........
Or the use of chemical weapons on the Kurds........
OR..............