hey Ron ERROR!!

[Cannabis.com]

I have been having trouble login in period, the boards, the chat, and its why I aint been aorund for a long time...

Trouble logging in here ... what problems exactly?

Note that the original message boards (Marihemp Network) are separate from here - each has its own separate user DB.

...and also im the guy who was forced to use this cheezy java interface because someone decided to do away with IRC completly. A BAD ERROR in my book, cause IRC was and still is more stable than any java client I have saw used on dial-up.. and sure maby many people are using high speed with the java client, and maby it works fine for many, but for many it does not, and im very educated in regard to computers, electronics and software type issues.

The connection speed really only matters during chat applet loading - shouldn't matter after that; I personally still use dial-up on occasion and the chat loads/runs fine. Many problems dial-up folks have experiened have been due to not waiting until the applet is fully loaded/running ... timeouts can be an issue if the loading is slowed down - running other programs (messagers, p2p, etc)/browsing other sites before loading is complete.

...Also expecting people to pay for chat is beyond my way of thinking, what makes this place any differnt from the free chats, it certainly aint the quality of people, I mean come on people lets get real, all the regulars here from years back know what went on here and how bad it got and the hack wars and the drama that unfolded..

Chat here is free - has been since the beginning of this board back in Jan-2004; the original cannabis.com chat was also always free - you may be thinking of the Cafe chat which only existed for a short time; most cafe members weren't using it / didn't need it.

...My Advice was given but never taken, and that was to keep IRC active and let the regulars using advaced scanning software catch the people responsible for the hack jobs at this site...

Running away from the problem wont fix it, and java is technically easier to hack than IRC.. Active X control can be over-ridden easy if the hacker was to really want to pry into a system..

The problem with IRC is that it gets too technical - most folks just want a nice friendly chat. You mention "advanced" scanning - klines don't work well for folks sharing the same IP; changing IPs rapidly.

The biggest problem with IRC is not IRC itself, but how many IRC channels degenerate into powerstruggles between the technically savvy and the not so savvy; powerfreaks.

Hacking of the software itself was never much of a problem with IRC chat ... biggest complaint by chatters was being knocked off by other IRC users; not talking DoS per se, but rather they were taking advantage of quirks in the IRC chat software/protocol to knock people off. In summery, eliminating IRC eliminated most such problems.

Being I aint been here in long time, I would love to hear some feedback on this issue.. I mean ya mean to tell me since java came online here all is better? HA!! If ya told me yes, I would not believe it...

I never in my life saw so much drama over logging into a chat..

Ps... be lucky if I come back.. dont wait for me

Java chat isn't perfect - and like any software has its glitches, but overall the java chat works much better - IRC chat is never coming back; many chat software packages no longer support it/phasing it out.

Give the java chat a chance ... yes there are far less user options and that may be what really turns you off from it, but as I wrote above, many folks just seek a nice chat without the frills/confusing options.

Hope to see in chat sometime ...

Thank you for your feedback.

Ron