Ahh, Catholicism

[JunkYard]

Ahh, it was sarcasm, lol. You must forgive me for assuming you were some sort of fundalmentalist. Your first post came off a little brass, lol.

Are we on the same page, then?

[Stemis516]

Seriously, i know there have been lots of authors.

Simple mind, your the one reading a fictional story....Not to say, there aren't importanat lessons in there.

I stick to fact.

I just don't believe you need someone to hold your hand, like a church, i feel its for weak minded people. Maybe i'm wrong, i was never brought up in religion. I have gone to cathpolic mass and christian masses, so i have seen.

I believe if your true to yourself and others, you'll do alright.

Personally, my horse-shoe tournaments on Sundays are much more fun.

the bible is hardly fiction in most of its parts, alot of it can be historically verified from other sources that i bet even you would consider valid

although what i have a feeling you refering to by fiction is the fact that jesus rose, blah blah blah and is the savior or what not and ya....that comes down to faith so its perfectly valid if you believe that part is fiction...in fact at this point in my life so do i

i just dont understand why your trying to come down on me when im simply trying to help you understand this thing as a book so when you argue it in the future you dont make urself look stupid....im not some crazy born again or a hardcore catholic so i dont know why you keep infering that i am acting like that

i mean, hell, you said it yourself....you believe in being true to yourself...im just trying to explain how the bible works AS A BOOK, as a piece of literature written over many years by many different people....if youve read any of my posts ive only talked about the bible from a completely historical and factual context....i havent been running around claiming its all true or that jesus is the one or anything like that.....i just happen to study the bible and be really interested in it.....alot of it is fact but then you have the rest of it which is based on faith which comes from christians....im not talking about anything in that book that has to do with the faith part....i mean just because i read and enjoy something doesnt mean i have to believe it, does it now???? if you admitted to reading science-fiction books in your spare time, i wouldnt automatically call you out and assume that what you read is what you believe so dont do that to me and instead try to read my posts for that they are

[dusto2k3]

Stemis516: so noone of that shit was direct towards you, i just used part of your quote, my bad if thats what we have now. This is what i want to say:

I just don't believe you need someone to hold your hand, like a church, i feel its for weak minded people. Maybe i'm wrong, i was never brought up in religion. I have gone to Catholic mass and Christian masses, so i have seen.

I believe if your true to yourself and others, you'll do alright.

Personally, my horse-shoe tournaments on Sundays are much more fun.

[Apostle in Triumph]

Ahh, it was sarcasm, lol. You must forgive me for assuming you were some sort of fundalmentalist. Your first post came off a little brass, lol.

Are we on the same page, then?

Yeah, we're cool. :thumbsup:

[bobthenuker]

That's exactly what I was implying, so I'm not quite sure what bubble you're trying to burst here. I never said it was absolute and unquestionable; I said it's supposed to be.

Exactly my point, idk how you guys are, but for the most part I know people that are religous fanatics believe so much in the bible that throwing it on the floor or ripping off pages is a sin. It's a book for god sakes, and people can interpret it however they want, either literally (which is clrealy retarded, becuase there is no way you can take two of every animal on the boat etc..) or as a moral guide(although I dont get why b/c it clearly advocates a lot of bad things). Like it or not a lot of people tkae that book so damn seriously, and they do believe it is the law of the land, above the constitution even, I mean people cite the bible all the time for gods sake

[Blazerboy1]

Well, Christmas is based on a pagan holiday...

you sir are correct, the time when jesus was born was in fact sometime in the summer months, due to the census being taken at that time.

love n stuff:hippy:

[Blazerboy1]

ahhhh my mother still refused to see that i'm an atheist, its funny
Love n stuff:hippy: