help me design a cabinet!

[xxxhazexxx]

its cool sharing resivour,if your only doing 2 plants you should use a baby n,f,t tank:thumbsup:

xxxhazexxx Reviewed by xxxhazexxx on 04-12-2007. help me design a cabinet! Hi all I originally planned on doing an underbench stealth cabiet, but I have since talked to the other half and decided to go all out and do it properly! Size I have to play with: 1650mm (64.96") wide 700mm (27.55") deep 2450mm (96.45") high Rating: 5

[untamed]

I say I will grow 2 for now, but no doubt when I get a taste for growing it that will no doubt double

anyone know any good links to DWC bucket DIY's?

[Scarlet Sky]

a ten dollar air pump from wally with two outlets is plenty for two plants

[bejay]

while I know you said you only want two plants flowering just cant really see using 96 inch of height in your flower room very effectivly growing large plants with a 400 over them, one exception might be doing a vertical scrog with the light positioned in the middle.
if you did ever decide to grow more you would be very limited in that cabinet with it split vertically and you may want to split it horizontally instead by maintaining the same height, and reducing the width to about 4 ft and the depth to 2 ft you could very well yield more in a smaller cabinet if you ever decided to use more plants in a sog or scrog using clones. and put the flower room in the top portion at around 56 inches tall and the mother clone area in the bottom with a height of around 40 inches.
you might read the link below for some scrog info
Scrog : Advanced Tactics - The evolution of scrog
and you can read alot about dwc at og faq at the link below.
Drugs-Forum - Cannabis cultivation: Overgrow's GrowFAQ
you can make a good bubbler out of coolers they are more sturdy than the cheaper tubs and also maintain reservoir temps better and are easy to make.

[untamed]

...just cant really see using 96 inch of height in your flower room very effectivly growing large plants with a 400 over them..

can you elaborate a bit more on this? is it a waste of space / too small light?

never done a cab grow, so I am not sure what you're referring to, TBH.

[bejay]

it is just a waste of space for a cab and the light your using a 400 does not have enough light intensity to penetrate very far so any bud sites over 2 ft away from the light will be small and not develop very well due to lack of light so your yield will suffer, and seeing how its in a cab really wouldnt recomend a larger light as you may not be able to control the temps, if it wasnt in a cab a larger light or even more than one light like 2, 600 or 2, 1000 for 2 large plants would work well.
by doing a vertical scrog with the 400 in a cooltube mounted vertically you are eliminating alot of your lights weakness by keeping it close to more budsites and increasing your yield. so you are using the height of the tall room to your advantage but even then you would still have plenty of room to grow 3-6 plants and take full advantage of mulitiple screens.
if you split the cab horizontally and made it smaller width and depth then you would not have all the extra height and could mount the light in a traditional way but you would probably be looking at using more plants to fill the space you would be looking at atleast 4-8 plants in a flat scrog or alot more in a sog 16-32.
the down side to scrog is obviously training which can take some time and would increase the cycle time in the flowering room to more than 10 weeks even more so on a large vertical scrog in a flat scrog you may not increase the time by much but increasing plant numbers would also help fill the screen faster.
but at any rate a 400 mounted in the top of an 8 ft cabinet is not a very good idea and you are wasting alot of space. would take that in to consideration when you build it, if you want to just grow a couple of large plants, wouldnt even bother using a cab at all and buy 1 or 2 larger lights.

[crazywill]

I got one question? can you get the cab thourgh the door.96" is a tall cab for most door ways.But I like the tall cab plan you got,more room.Peace

[untamed]

it is just a waste of space for a cab and the light your using a 400 does not have enough light intensity to penetrate very far so any bud sites over 2 ft away from the light will be small and not develop very well due to lack of light so your yield will suffer, and seeing how its in a cab really wouldnt recomend a larger light as you may not be able to control the temps, if it wasnt in a cab a larger light or even more than one light like 2, 600 or 2, 1000 for 2 large plants would work well.
by doing a vertical scrog with the 400 in a cooltube mounted vertically you are eliminating alot of your lights weakness by keeping it close to more budsites and increasing your yield. so you are using the height of the tall room to your advantage but even then you would still have plenty of room to grow 3-6 plants and take full advantage of mulitiple screens.
if you split the cab horizontally and made it smaller width and depth then you would not have all the extra height and could mount the light in a traditional way but you would probably be looking at using more plants to fill the space you would be looking at atleast 4-8 plants in a flat scrog or alot more in a sog 16-32.
the down side to scrog is obviously training which can take some time and would increase the cycle time in the flowering room to more than 10 weeks even more so on a large vertical scrog in a flat scrog you may not increase the time by much but increasing plant numbers would also help fill the screen faster.
but at any rate a 400 mounted in the top of an 8 ft cabinet is not a very good idea and you are wasting alot of space. would take that in to consideration when you build it, if you want to just grow a couple of large plants, wouldnt even bother using a cab at all and buy 1 or 2 larger lights.

sounds like some sound advice, but please bare in mind:

- I need a cabinet as I do have some people that visit my house, and having mull plants in the open isn't something I want.
- good point about the cabinet being tall, however how do all these other people with 4 people to 1 light manage to get lights to the lower buds? I think I could easily rectify this by using a few CFL's at the lower level true?
- I cannot grow more than 2 plants as my wife will not allow it "at this point in time"
- if I were to SCROG, I wouldnt be building a cabinet this size.

I do appreciate your input however, so why not design something for me using the size I have listed based on the above information also?

[untamed]

I got one question? can you get the cab thourgh the door.96" is a tall cab for most door ways.But I like the tall cab plan you got,more room.Peace

The cabinet will be based in the garage and built in the garage, so no probs there :rastasmoke:

Yeh, I original had the idea of a 'low height stealth cab' with a SCROG, however I am now not limited to height so I thought I may aswell use it.

That being said though, bejay has strongly recommended against my idea.

[bejay]

well you can do it any way you wish, but you may not yield a whole lot from that design but yield isnt everything it would provide most people with enough just depends on how much you use.
so if you have a veg area would guess you are using it for maybe 1 mother plant and a few clones and you are limited to only flowering 2 plants but have 5-6 plants total just the rest wouldnt be flowering?