cloning and genetic drift

[Gatekeeper777]

I have a man who i work with that has some clones we wants to sell to me for 20.00 its a bigbud strain.

He got those from a clone so these are 2nd generation clones
clone of a clone you might say.
Would they still be viable to make a clone mum from? I wanna keep her having babies, but if she is goona throw me weak weed its not worth my time, i wanna stay away from genetic drift.
thanks:thumbsup:

Gatekeeper777 Reviewed by Gatekeeper777 on 04-08-2007. cloning and genetic drift I have a man who i work with that has some clones we wants to sell to me for 20.00 its a bigbud strain. He got those from a clone so these are 2nd generation clones clone of a clone you might say. Would they still be viable to make a clone mum from? I wanna keep her having babies, but if she is goona throw me weak weed its not worth my time, i wanna stay away from genetic drift. thanks:thumbsup: Rating: 5

[Chronic Chrissy]

My mum is a clone off a clone that I got as a clone, seems to be doing me fine.

[harris7]

it wll do fine. you can clone as much as you want. i've never read in a "book" anything bad about it.

that isn't what genetic drift is

[Gatekeeper777]

then explain genetic drift to me

[uzybear]

i'm glad someone answered this for me; good to know; so a clone of a clone of a clone won't be weaker than something grown from seed. obviously the genetics would be the same, but what i wondered is whether plants grown from seeds or clones tend to be heartier????

[Scarlet Sky]

The two most important mechanisms of evolution are natural selection and genetic drift. Most people have a reasonable understanding of natural selection but they don't realize that drift is also important. The anti- evolutionists, in particular, concentrate their attack on natural selection not realizing that there is much more to evolution. Darwin didn't know about genetic drift, this is one of the reasons why modern evolutionary biologists are no longer "Darwinists". (When anti-evolutionists equate evolution with Darwinism you know that they have not done their homework!)

Random genetic drift is a stochastic process (by definition). One aspect of genetic drift is the random nature of transmitting alleles from one generation to the next given that only a fraction of all possible zygotes become mature adults. The easiest case to visualize is the one which involves binomial sampling error. If a pair of diploid sexually reproducing parents (such as humans) have only a small number of offspring then not all of the parent's alleles will be passed on to their progeny due to chance assortment of chromosomes at meiosis. In a large population this will not have much effect in each generation because the random nature of the process will tend to average out. But in a small population the effect could be rapid and significant

[Gatekeeper777]

ok
thanks

[stinkyattic]

Gatekeeper- yes, a clone of a clone is no problem; if the grower knows what he is doing and does not over-stress the mothers, you are fine.
Edit: Genetic drift is actually a phenomenon of a randomly-mating population in which no new genes are added or removed, but environmental factors [selection] can influence gene frequencies over time.

Scarlet- Where did you get that info? Was that from another site?

[rhizome]

Genetic " drift" is not an issue in asexual propagation.

There. I said it.

n population genetics, genetic drift is the statistical effect that results from the influence that chance has on the survival of alleles (variants of a gene). The effect may cause an allele and the biological trait that it confers to become more common or more rare over successive generations. Ultimately, the drift may either remove the allele from the gene pool or remove all other alleles. Whereas natural selection is the tendency of beneficial alleles to become more common over time (and detrimental ones less common), genetic drift is the fundamental tendency of any allele to vary randomly in frequency over time due to statistical variation alone, so long as it does not comprise all or none of the distribution.-wikipedia "genetic drift"

Note the specificity of "sucessive generations."

Asexual propagation- " cuttings", " clones" are re-iterations of an individual, not a reproductive generation. There is no reassortation of alles.


Certainly it is possible for re-iterations of the same individual to demonstrate variations in phenotype, due to environmental conditions in particular. I'll even posit that there can be damage to the DNA of an individual used as a source that will continue to manifest through successive re-iterations.
Many viral pathogens will cause variations in phenotype that will appear to be variations in endotype.

But it can't be actual " genetic drift"- Drift, by definition, occurs within a population, over (sexual)reproductive generations. We're talking about re-iterations of the same individual.

If you're experiancing a great deal of pheno drift when new moms move into an envionment, I'd be looking at increasingly symptomatic viral pathogens.

[harris7]

sorry i didn't define it because it isn't related to Growing cannabis.

it has been very well explained above