Orangeman's 1st log!

[orangeman]

The roots aren't all crazy out of the pots but they are starting to be exposed and coming out. How much longer before it becomes serious? Everything that is coming out of the bottom are roots, it's not anything else, would probably be very white if it weren't for the nutes lol.

btw all the plants bottoms basically looks like this one.

[orangeman]

Well 3 days from nutes, 2 days without pesticide and one plant seems to be taking it worse than the other two. One of my better plant has 7 nodes and still growing and the second better one has 6. The worst one has about 5 and the plant seems to hate the nutes given WAY worse than the other two. and is the less developed, it seems more naked the the other two lol I hope that plant doesn't die if it shows me it's a female because I only have 3 plants and I need as many females as possible. Probably more than likely will definitely put them in 12/12 on Monday. I'm not in a rush to flower them, I would actually like to wait a few more weeks if I could but I need the harvest day to be before a certain week and I don't feel comfortable letting them veg any longer as it is with the root issue and the way they look from the nutes and pesticide.

[orangeman]

I also now tied down the fan leaves to give more light to the new growth shoots and new branches, I thought it made sense lol. Unless I see negative effects I'll probably continue to do it and untie the fan leaves when the branches get big enough so they aren't in the shade of the fan leaves.

[invision]

when fans leaves get in the way i just tuck them under the branches, much easier, nice grow so far.

[horror business]

Orangeman, the roots at the bottom are fine and normal. After a few days, you'll see a lot more roots through the holes, but you'll notice they aren't coming out of the holes anymore, and the ones that already did, have turned brown and died, which won't hurt the plant. If a plant has a lot of space to grow in (like yours do), naturally the roots will go to the bottom, since gravity, and because they want to. Well, soon, they will get to the bottom, and can't go any further. They will try the drainage holes, but realize there's no soil or water there. So, they will grow all throughout the soil. Up, and in the sides, and everything. They are establishing good roots, and that's fine, just don't worry. I heard that you can actually clip the plants roots, and that is how bonsai mother plants are kept. (A former grower with experience doing that told me so, so it's a reliable source).

As far as the pesticide damage and all of your other discouragements, at least you still have plants. Yesterday, all four of mine showed definate male preflowers. They were exactly 3 weeks old from planting the seeds (bag seed), and lights were on 24 hours a day. So, you can imagine my discouragement. I chopped them all down and made a salad out of the leaves and chopped up stems though. It actually was good, lol. So, don't feel bad, you still have plants. My only ones turned into males...
Other than that, I was doing everything right, so it's not that I was a bad grower, I just had bad luck. I'm never starting from seeds again though, I'm not growing again until I can get a clone from a good strain. That way, I won't have to waste my time again...

Peace,
horror business :rasta:

[orangeman]

Yeah, well I think I have an unfamiliar pest now. I might spray them Friday just to be safe. I go down there and one of the fingers on the leaves were basically cut. Like something put a hole in the middle of the finger and caused it to hand over. Then there's a slit from the tip up to half of one of the fan leaves. Then there was a hole right next to it. On the underside around the hole it was black. I don't know what the fuck is causing this but it's pissing me off! Also I watered them just now and emptied out the run off water and it was yellow like piss lol. I saw some type of soil critter or w/e. I sprayed soil a few times like 4 times where it was at, I hope I don't smoke a pesticide poisonous bud lol. I'm glad I'm getting this experience and didn't start off with seeds that I spent money on. I know a few things about growing now and I know the only problem I'm going to run into in the future is the pests. I don't know what they are or how the fuck my plants are getting damaged. Also I lifted lights up, I totally forgot about lights. I'm guessing now that the heat probably caused the leaves to curl up and all that. Probably heat stress. I lifted the lights up some so I hope they like it, I won't forget to check the lights anymore. I totally forgot about it haha.

Also Horror I didn't know about the root thing. If it seems all good by next Monday I might extend the vegging for another 1 to 2 weeks maybe.

[horror business]

Have they shown any signs of improvement yet?

[invision]

orangeman what is the PH of your soil, the plant in the rear looks like it needs some rescue.

[Splifted]

Man, looks like I missed a lot. Now that you got this going, I guess that means I need to stop by the boards more often

[orangeman]

orangeman what is the PH of your soil, the plant in the rear looks like it needs some rescue.

No, it was the heat. The plants are fine and every plant has a pH ranging between 6.7-7.0. Just went down to check on them and all the new growth is making me feel better because it's all green and healthy again. I just won't make the same mistakes I made before and everything should be fine . I don't know if it's true that they double in size when flowering but if so then when ever my fan arrives for the odor bucket I'm building I'll probably switch 'em to 12/12. That'll be probably some time next week. I'll have pics up next week or maybe later if I stop being lazy lol.

And Splifted thanks for stopping by, you should do another log haha.

edit: Oh and btw I don't have any unfamiliar pests. It was just a SINGLE mite that was fuckin with my plant and hiding that I didn't see until like 2 days ago. I don't know how long it's been on my plant but I'm pretty sure that was the last of the mites (for now).