I have always used a bubble cloner, but untill I started using a b vitamin supplement with the cloner it would take sometimes 14 to 21 days to see roots. Now with Super thrive in the cloner I usally see roots in 4 to 5 days. Also did you us a cloning supplement after you took the clones? How did you take the clones, and what part of the plant did you take the clones from, top, bottom ,middle of plant?