like saying weed makes people lazy - it doesnt. It doesnt strip them of all their energy, they just cant be bothered to use their energy...
... because they're brain is too blitzed from constant bunnage. If it's not laziness, it's something else very similar :wtf: .

I agree with what your saying, but as I already said, it's something that can be applied to most substances. I'm not a violent person when I drink, but it's a known fact alcohol can make people violent. You and I arn't necessarily lazy people when we toke, but I know a few people that just wanna toke and toke and toke and think of nothing else, no matter how bad their position. The simple fact being, they wouldn't be that way without marijuana.

I toke hard hard hard myself, or at least have been up to now, and I get all my work done. Being a musician, I get my work done BETTER when i'm stoned :jointsmile: . Naturally, I can't really argue against marijuana from this personal standpoint, but I still feel the negative effects from constant daily use, as i'm sure you have at least once, being a proud veteran smoker and all.

We all know the bad effects are there, so whos to say they don't affect some worse than others? Not that it's entirely MJ's fault, but it's evidence of the danger. Like I said, a simple aknowledgment doesn't hurt anyone, least of all yourself.