Tired of "decriminalization" talk

[cannabis=freedom]

Does anyone else get annoyed how whenever you hear about the reform of cannabis laws, it's never what's right....which is full legalization?

No, it's always some bullshit about decriminilization of small amounts for personal use, meaning if you get caught burning one it's more or less akin to a traffic violation.

First of all, this would in no way eliminate the problems associated with cannabis's illegal black market which creates crime and violence and leads sometimes to harder drugs. It would also still be in violation of people's freedom, because it is still bullshit to have to pay a fucking fine for smoking a wondrous plant.

It also shouldn't matter whether you have 2 grams or 5 ounces of good shit on you.

cannabis=freedom Reviewed by cannabis=freedom on 04-03-2007. Tired of "decriminalization" talk Does anyone else get annoyed how whenever you hear about the reform of cannabis laws, it's never what's right....which is full legalization? No, it's always some bullshit about decriminilization of small amounts for personal use, meaning if you get caught burning one it's more or less akin to a traffic violation. First of all, this would in no way eliminate the problems associated with cannabis's illegal black market which creates crime and violence and leads sometimes to harder drugs. Rating: 5

[StrwbrryFldsFrvr]

Baby steps is what it's going to take.. Decriminalization will come before legalization.

But when you think about it, Decriminalization isn't too bad.. just a ticket for being careless.

[cannabis=freedom]

Baby steps is what it's going to take.. Decriminalization will come before legalization.

But when you think about it, Decriminalization isn't too bad.. just a ticket for being careless.

You're right about the baby steps...as long as we eventually get our full legalization I'll be happy....and about the ticket, yeah, it's not a big deal, but there's a principle involved in the injustice of it: it is in NO WAY a crime to smoke weed.

[medicinal]

I am not too sure about legalization, yes it would be wonderful for all the potheads, but do we really want a culture of stoners. Most stoners are too stoned to really be a part of any society outside of a few stoner friends. And do we really want millions of stoned people driving down our highways. I used to get stoned and drive in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. The weed since then has severely increased in THC content. If a joint will lay you out, do we really want society functioning on that level? maybe some can handle it but all the people that would try it if it were legal would undoubtably be stoned beyond belief. I'm all for medicinal MJ, but am not convinced a full legalization would be the best plan. Decriminalization for sure. But if you are driving while impaired on MJ then there should be penalties.

[StrwbrryFldsFrvr]

I am not too sure about legalization, yes it would be wonderful for all the potheads, but do we really want a culture of stoners. Most stoners are too stoned to really be a part of any society outside of a few stoner friends. And do we really want millions of stoned people driving down our highways. I used to get stoned and drive in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. <b>The weed since then has severely increased in THC content. If a joint will lay you out, do we really want society functioning on that level?</b>maybe some can handle it but all the people that would try it if it were legal would undoubtably be stoned beyond belief. I'm all for medicinal MJ, but am not convinced a full legalization would be the best plan. Decriminalization for sure. But if you are driving while impaired on MJ then there should be penalties.

Thats where the government would come in to regulate how much THC is in the bud... I'd still be smoking homegrown though

Though it would be a shit load cheaper and better for the US economy if people bought government weed.

[fishman3811]

MEDICINAL ,your argument about millions of people stoned while driving and having a culture of pot heads laying around and smoking weed all day is nothing but a fanciful laugh.thats the same reasoning people said about booze before they stopped prohabition,''do we really want people drinking all day and hours of the night''making booze legal will just make people drink ..Well that never really happened now did it,Your scared about pot heads driving why??Not that their isnt millions of pot heads driving anyway.Plus its a fact that people who drive while on pot drive slower and are more careful.If anything itll make the streets safer having pot heads drive,im more worried about the guy whos been consumeing the legal drug known as booze than the guy high on pot.The guy driving on pot will only make me late for work cause he is driving like a fucking old lady.Yes i agree that getting a fine for cannabis is bullshit but its better than jail.Also cannabis will never be legal in our lifetime so get use to it.There is too many people who have the power over government like big drug companies and other powerfull people who demonize weed and dictate what our laws should be.poliiticians once elected stop listening to the people and start listening to the companies that contributed to their election efforts in the form of dollars.So all politicians have their masters and its not you or me its the guy who gave him the money so he can get elected.

[Frickr]

If they do legalize it, and have the government controlling the amount of THC, it would be compairable to going to by a case of beer where 6 might get you a good buzz going, where as a bottle of wiskey will knock you out, and not everyone goes and drinks a bottle of wiskey and drives all over hell. Personally i think people would be more responsible with it if it was legal. You would see alot less bing smoking, and alot more social smoking. and who here hasnt smoked themselves sober, when your high for so long, you can function normally, but still feel fucked up!

[cannabis=freedom]

Yeah, medicinal, wtf is this shit about stoners being too stoned to function in society? Many people I know function a lot better in society when stoned, as they're more pleasant and friendly with others, more deep-thinking, and take a greater interest in just about anything.

And yes, there should be penalties for driving high ONLY if you're so fucked up it's making a noticeable and unsafe difference.

And yes, also, it would inherently invoke a greater responsibility if legal because suddenly it isn't a dirty crime only for burnout losers, but an accepted part of social society, which would change people's behaviour.

[B.Basher]

Yeah, medicinal, wtf is this shit about stoners being too stoned to function in society? Many people I know function a lot better in society when stoned, as they're more pleasant and friendly with others, more deep-thinking, and take a greater interest in just about anything.

Wow, now that's the most made up fact i've ever heard.

Not to blow you off or anything, but just because weed makes you happy, doesn't mean a society full of weed will be some perfect utopia. You might as well say if everyone took heroine then we'd all be living in paradise. Legalisation at this stage is a bad idea for 'medicinal's very good reasons. Simply put, marijuana does pose a health risk for a lot of people. It can be addictive (a psychological dependancy IS an addiction) and can bring out illnesses and problems later in life following a heavy addiction at a young age. It's ignorant that people assume because it's not as dangerous as the government makes out, it's not dangerous at all. An acquaintance from my old school hung himself recently following a hard, hard weed addiction and one of my best friends is going absolutely nowhere in life because all the lazy bastard wants to do is smoke up. Yes, he is a lazy bastard, but his addiction and it's effect on his behaviour is very evident. Like any substance, it varies from person to person, and in my opinion, people will take the trouble to smoke up if it's their own choice, legal or not. Legalisation means making another harmful substance readily available. We already have cigarettes and alcohol, do we really need another?

Like it or not, the way forward (at least for now, as another user pointed out) is in these little steps. The key is to make known the reality of the substance, useful for a lot of purposes but still dangerous, particularly now. Reduce punishments for casual users and possessors, legalise for medicinal purposes and give kids and adults alike access to an HONEST and LOGICAL info base. Full legalisation is the narrow minded fantasy of anyone that fails to take into account the socialogical effects of such a move. You can still get high, but think outside the box.

From: Someone that isn't in denial of the harmful effects of their favourite herb.

Also, it'd be nice not to be flamed but challenged sensibly on this viewpoint.

[jaGerbom]

Wow, now that's the most made up fact i've ever heard.

Not to blow you off or anything, but just because weed makes you happy, doesn't mean a society full of weed will be some perfect utopia. You might as well say if everyone took heroine then we'd all be living in paradise. Legalisation at this stage is a bad idea for 'medicinal's very good reasons. Simply put, marijuana does pose a health risk for a lot of people. It can be addictive (a psychological dependancy IS an addiction) and can bring out illnesses and problems later in life following a heavy addiction at a young age. It's ignorant that people assume because it's not as dangerous as the government makes out, it's not dangerous at all. An acquaintance from my old school hung himself recently following a hard, hard weed addiction and one of my best friends is going absolutely nowhere in life because all the lazy bastard wants to do is smoke up. Yes, he is a lazy bastard, but his addiction and it's effect on his behaviour is very evident. Like any substance, it varies from person to person, and in my opinion, people will take the trouble to smoke up if it's their own choice, legal or not. Legalisation means making another harmful substance readily available. We already have cigarettes and alcohol, do we really need another?

Like it or not, the way forward (at least for now, as another user pointed out) is in these little steps. The key is to make known the reality of the substance, useful for a lot of purposes but still dangerous, particularly now. Reduce punishments for casual users and possessors, legalise for medicinal purposes and give kids and adults alike access to an HONEST and LOGICAL info base. Full legalisation is the narrow minded fantasy of anyone that fails to take into account the socialogical effects of such a move. You can still get high, but think outside the box.

From: Someone that isn't in denial of the harmful effects of their favourite herb.

Also, it'd be nice not to be flamed but challenged sensibly on this viewpoint.

antichrist...

jk...good points...i still want it legal though