And those same people, with the weapons and human power they have, would overthrow a government that hasn't fully established its security. Then we get another Saddam in power, and probably something worse.

We could only hope we'd get another Sadam. He kept the mullahs at bay with his non-religious government, and didn't allow foriegn assholes to mess with Iraq. I'm sorry, but it's too late. The sectarian war is racheting up and the Shia have the advantage of population. This country is going to be a suburb of Iran. Thanks Bush. The problem is, Bush wants to kill a few thousand more before he's out of office so the contractors can make a few billion more. (I wonder if you put a dollar amount on the head of every person killed in Iraq, how many thousands would it be?) When the Dems finally take the white house, No doubts here, they will pull out and leave Iraq to Iran. This area has only one solution and no-one is listening to Joe Biden. He said a couple a years ago to divide the place into shia, Sunni, and Kurds, Divvy up the oil money, and leave a small central government to administrate the wealth, only they (the Iraqis) are so corrupt, even that probably wouldn't work. Iraq is a failed state and we caused it. Sadam was a brutal dictator, one of many, and needed to be deposed, But by his own people. We should have never gone. Again, Viet Nam rings in, a war that impacted me personally, and we are well on our way to equalling and surpassing that boondoggle. Get out now, period. all the rhetoric will do no good.