latewood, crispi, weedhound....

[Scarlet Sky]

asuming you would veg for thirty days, how much room will one plant's roots take up? is it possible to do more than one plant in a 5g without getting bound? i'm in the process of learning new tricks, if you haven't deduced that already... any help is much appreciated.

here's the particulars. i'm going to be doing dwc, hopefully nine 5g buckets in flower in a square under a 1000w hps, will be vegging under one or two 400w mh with solarmax gold bulbs (blue spec with added red, works wonders). i will be using gh products, hardwater micro, flora gro, and flora bloom.

i am using 3'' net pots, are these large enough?

these buckets will be independent, and will not be recirculating.

i have one bucket now, for root establishment; seven site. here's some pix, but don't laugh; these are in water and st only, ph approx 5.8-6.2, temps at 60. i'm tesing water with ph strips and an aquarium thermometer.

Scarlet Sky Reviewed by Scarlet Sky on 04-02-2007. latewood, crispi, weedhound.... asuming you would veg for thirty days, how much room will one plant's roots take up? is it possible to do more than one plant in a 5g without getting bound? i'm in the process of learning new tricks, if you haven't deduced that already... any help is much appreciated. here's the particulars. i'm going to be doing dwc, hopefully nine 5g buckets in flower in a square under a 1000w hps, will be vegging under one or two 400w mh with solarmax gold bulbs (blue spec with added red, works wonders). Rating: 5

[bongerstonerd00d]

Well hell........I got suggestions, but I am not any of those 3. This thread is no fun.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sigh




b0nger

[Scarlet Sky]

bonger, you goof, i'll take help or advice from anyone these names in specific are some that i know and trust. by all means, contribute

[Cyclonite]

1 plant can take 1 5g bucket and fill it with roots....you only want 1 per. You could go with larger net pots...I would if I was doing 1 plant per 5gal bucket. 3in should be ok...they just provide a stable foundation for the plants.

[Scarlet Sky]

thanx cyclonite, right along the lines of what i was thinking. i'm not trying for monster plants, just addequate. but i can see how the roots would build up...

[bongerstonerd00d]

Well, since you asked.....LOL Why dont you get them netpots that perfectly fit the tops of 5 gallon buckets ? You can grow trees in those bad boys, literally.

9 seperate buckets, huh ? Do you realize what a pain in your ass that is going to be changing them individually ? Plus, if you setup controller wit seperate rez you can control yer h2o temps much easier in mah opinion. ie. Water gets a little too warm, lift lid toss in frozen bottle of water for example. Not to mention pH and nute ALL the water at once, well I guess you could mix up a batch in trash can or whatever and fill from it. But again, sounds like a major PITA. With rez hook hose to it, drain, refill.......eazy as pie.

Get ya some panda plastic and turn those monster net pots upside down and trace around em so ya got a nice neat cover for each bucket, too.

OR....why not a drip for them monsters ? Could set them up on say a 1 foot to 18 inch high table you make outa plywood and 2x4's and drain back to rez???????? Huh, huh????? Build that table and make legs on side you drain to 1/2 inch shorter so ya gots a slope. Remember, water dont run uphill What about that idea, huh ? CHeap to build, too. Some beer, grommlets, hose, drill, beer, a rez, pumps (air, water), beer and you are live and in color. Oh, and some silicone goop and a recycling timer. Can get a cement pond (swimmin pool) recyclin timer at Wallworld for around 20-30 bucks.

Drill hole on each side of 6 of the buckets and daisy chain them together. Yanno, hook one in back to one in front to other and then T the lines at end of table so it connects to one main line to drain back to rez. Your last bucket on each row of 3 only needs one ho' in it.

WHen them babies get to be big gurls they gonna get mighty thristy. You gunna be fillin buckets frequently ......and hate life.

Thats it, my vote is for drip, drain back to rez, large netpots, and trees. Unless you wanted to get all fancy and mirror that flood and drain system they sell for about 600 bucks with controller and seperate rez. What a spot for 2 1000 watt HPS's.............Holy shit, what a yield you would get.

Just some ideas to ponder. You settle on something, let me know. I enjoy building as much as if not more than growing.

Its always green,
b0nger

[Weedhound]

Scarlet are you going hydro? I LOVE THAT!!! WELCOME!! God I'm so thrilled!! I know you still have you soil stuff that you do so well but YEAH!

I agree with Cyclonite...I'm sure you've seen my rootbound thread...sigh. You will see roots growing around and into everything and everywhere....as much room as possible. The waterfarms are 2 and 1/2 gal each but do not have as many holes etc for roots to grow through.....only the bottom has holes so I feel that restricts root growth. Net pots will work much better for you.:thumbsup: The little set of roots growing in your last photo look nice and healthy. Are those clones you have going or from seed?

Your set-up looks totally cool. Good work there!

One last tip....watch out for that Bonger guy. He's kind of a wild card. :S2:

[Weedhound]

Damn I just tried to rep you for going hydro but I can't yet......

[bongerstonerd00d]

'Hound, moi ? <looks around>,,,,,,,,,,,,,So SS is new to 'dro huh ? Wait til they see the results in those 5 gallon (one plant each) buckets. If it wuz me, I'd grow 4 massive trained trees under that 1000 watter on a 4x4 footprint. 60+ watts per sq ft.............oh yeah, I am getting all excited now.

Drill massive amount of holes around tops of buckets and buy 12,000 yards of string and train those babes to expose all them budsites. Nice bake under that 1000 watts for 8-10 weeks, and............I am flyin now, just above the tree tops...........


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Like it green,
b0nger

[Scarlet Sky]

hi guys! wow, lots to take in...

ok, let me give you some MORE background. i've been a dirty girl as long as i've been growing. works very well for the indoor routine, with different strains and projects going all at once... however, i've found two realy excellent pheno's that work wonders for my medical needs. i'd like to build up a small stock of these, to have it when i need it. hydro seems to be the answer. i have the potency, now im looking for yeild.

budget is and will continue to be a problem. i'm a very crafty individual, and can and will build what ever i need, if i can. so diy info is greatly appreciated. however, i can't afford to buy whatever i need, i kinda have to play it by ear. that's why i'm thinking sepparate buckets. i don't have a large tub for a res, and i don't have the pump or timers required for something like that. also, with the 9 bucket setup, i can change one bucket a day, which will result in a res change every nine days.

i have a 400w mh with solarmax gold bulb and a 1000w hps to work with in flower, i dont see myself aquiring additional lights any time soon. i will be getting an 85w air pump and a digital ph/tds pen, but those are necessary items, and i have something worked out, which is why i'm starting this.

i love the idea of a big res, but i had a slightly different idea. i have the drain to a shower, which will hold 8-9 buckets. if i could figure out how to put a closeable drain on the buckets, i could drain from that, three at a time into a tub i have (18g) i can find a big water pump for ten bucks at a flea market, and hook it up to a garden hose to water the roses. no waste

umm, i lost myself now, so i'll post this and see if the rest comes to me...

edit, i don't have room for trees, lol. i have room for 4-5 footers, that's it...