ARE YOU LETTING THE GOVERNMET WALK ALL OVER YOU

[Nepalese black]

Hi there all,

This is starting to happen in other Countries, so please wee need your support, and if we win this will have a knock over effect in all places, come on potheads we are a big force, lets show them how people of all raceâ??s, cultures from all over the World can do.

We are;

Freedom To Choose

Thx for all the support, and yes this is about freedom of choose, come on lets put one over on the Government, for Gods sake stand up for your rights, as most of the British public are damn apathetic, and I also respect the people that have different views,

We have made contact with the organiser of the Shisha Bar campaign which hit the news last week. We are getting together early next week to try and pool resources as he has also instructed council to go for a JR on their behalf. He had never heard of us and was very excited by the prospect of fighting this together. Let us hope that a few rich Arabs are standing in the background ready to fling a few thousand barrels of oil at us!!
This may also be a good opportunity to show that Muslims and Brits can fight together for their cultures.

I honestly hate asking this, but we are all in this together, and donâ??t say youâ??ll do it later please now. WE NEED DONATIONS AS WE HAVE THE FINAL three hour consolation with the solicitor and barrister to ensure that our case is as water tight, please just a £1, £10, £100 or even £1000000.

IN MY POSTING I NOT SURE IF I MADE MYSELF CLEAR, but what we are lobbying for and taking the UK Government to court for is â??NOTâ?� to stop the smoking ban, â??butâ?� for an amendment, which would allow separate smoking rooms with filtration and ventilation, this is fair and non-biased, like the old days, or as someone said be down to the landlord, that is the way in Spain, please see the below, on the more smokers when there are smoking bans.[/quote]

Most young people think becoming a smoker is the norm
Cancer Research UK : Most young people think becoming a smoker is the norm
And too see gangs of people smoking outside will make this far worst, as it is in other countries.

New Zealand smoke more after the ban
Scoop: Smoking Prevalence Falling Too Slowly

Italians smoking more despite national ban
SignOnSanDiego.com > News > World -- Italians smoking more despite national ban

Spain: Spaniards knuckle under to new smoking curbs and there are 1/2 million less smoking, because they allow smoking in the pubs
Spaniards knuckle under to new smoking curbs: poll

New York has a bar smoking ban, so Smoker Numbers Rise,
Smoker Numbers Rise, but Mayor Lauds Other City Statistics - September 15, 2006 - The New York Sun

Ireland Has Almost 20 000 More Smokers after the ban,
Ireland Has Almost 20 000 More Smokers

Smoking rates up in Scotland,
Smoking ban 'a triumph of propaganda over science' says Imperial as sales and profits rise | Business | Money | Telegraph

Pubs now gone bust = 1,000+.

Jobs lost by the beginning of last summer = 12,000 (more now).

At least 20,000 more smokers in Ireland now then there would have been if the ban had not taken place.

Gallagher tobacco have announced for two years running a 4% increase in profits.

R.J. Carroll have also announced a rise in profits.

A thriving and booming black market in tobacco products which the Irish government is unable to control.

More young people smoking.

Loads of adapted outdoor areas plus countless secret back rooms and lock-ins.

Cancer on the rise.

Children are victims of smoking ban, says study
Scotsman.com News - Tobacco - Children are victims of smoking ban, says study
Children's passive smoking increases after pub bans

The Publican - number one for licensed trade news, and Proud of Pubs - Home - Children's passive smoking increases after pub bans

And there is not one name of a sinlge person who has been harmed or died by passive smoke.


This has actually gone thought the Houses of Parliament and we had 70 votes for and 210 against, that is why we applied for a Judicial Review.

ANYONE WANT STUDIES PROVING SHS SMOKE IS HARMLESS PLEASE SAY

Nepalese black

Nepalese black Reviewed by Nepalese black on 04-01-2007. ARE YOU LETTING THE GOVERNMET WALK ALL OVER YOU Hi there all, This is starting to happen in other Countries, so please wee need your support, and if we win this will have a knock over effect in all places, come on potheads we are a big force, lets show them how people of all raceâ??s, cultures from all over the World can do. We are; Freedom To Choose Thx for all the support, and yes this is about freedom of choose, come on lets put one over on the Government, for Gods sake stand up for your rights, as most of the British public Rating: 5

[B.Basher]

Pubs now gone bust = 1,000+.

Jobs lost by the beginning of last summer = 12,000 (more now).

At least 20,000 more smokers in Ireland now then there would have been if the ban had not taken place.

Gallagher tobacco have announced for two years running a 4% increase in profits.

R.J. Carroll have also announced a rise in profits.

A thriving and booming black market in tobacco products which the Irish government is unable to control.

More young people smoking.

Loads of adapted outdoor areas plus countless secret back rooms and lock-ins.

Cancer on the rise.

This chunk of facts, which happen to be the most extreme, does not have any sources of citations. Where does this info come from? Cancer on the rise? Well, yes, people still smoke outside of pubs you know.
Although I don't smoke and hate smoking, I feel comfortable surrounded by tobacco in a pub. Restaurants make sense, but to ban it in a pub doesn't really make sense at all. People like to smoke while socialising and I even feel tempted after a drink now and again (that's the only time I can feel it).
I would take these so called social studies with a pinch of salt. The only winners when it comes to cigarettes is the tobacco industry, who's prime goal is to keep you addicted and paying them £4 a packet. It's a tricky subject when addiction to a government taxed and favoured, highly destructive substance has become socially accepted. If your going to ban it in pubs because its "dangerous", ban it altogether. As if the environment makes a lick of difference.

Either way, good luck with this. :thumbsup:

[bong_man]

im a smoker and the smoking ban is great! i hated it when it first came out but its so much better getting sloshed in a pub thats not covered in smoke! you smoke alot less to and they build realy sweet beer gardens! Its realy cool everyones happy i dont no one person whos pissed off bout the smoking ban! and you realy notice the differance when u goto a dif country and smoke in the pubs, u just feel sick, tired, sore eyes, smoke more etc etc its horrible abit of fresh air is good and you can smoke bud in the beergardens without staff giving u greef! most of them have leather sofas, heaters, tvs etc in them its sweet

[bong_man]

oh and i'd say ur stats bout ireland are bullshit! you see alot less smokers