Need Emergency Room help plz

[Wheezey]

Hi,
Take a look at these plants plz. They are about one month old. Can't get em to stop sagging. They are under a 400 HPS with a 55 watt 5000K cfl on the side. Ph was just now changed from 7.0 for two days to 5.9. They had root rot which I had cleaned out with peroxide and left peroxide in the tank for a day. That is an econo stealth grow cab. There are now 200 PPM only with Floralicious grow and Flora Nova Bloom, 1/4 tsp each in a 3 to 5 gallon tank. There is very good circulation of air and bubbling with two 10 inch aerator stones. But they have been in this cab for only two days; previously they were in a PC cab and that is why I had started the Bloom - because I only had 20 inch in there. There is a thread in closet/cabinet growing about the PC grow. This is my first time growing; I am a medical patient. Thanks for you help. Wheezey

Wheezey Reviewed by Wheezey on 03-31-2007. Need Emergency Room help plz Hi, Take a look at these plants plz. They are about one month old. Can't get em to stop sagging. They are under a 400 HPS with a 55 watt 5000K cfl on the side. Ph was just now changed from 7.0 for two days to 5.9. They had root rot which I had cleaned out with peroxide and left peroxide in the tank for a day. That is an econo stealth grow cab. There are now 200 PPM only with Floralicious grow and Flora Nova Bloom, 1/4 tsp each in a 3 to 5 gallon tank. There is very good circulation of Rating: 5

[bong_man]

they look so unhappy

[Wheezey]

Sorry about the last picture; here is a replacement from an hour or two later, the drooping seems to be getting worse; death must be coming. Should I take them out of the water for a bit? Any way to get them leaves up fast?

[JackdaWack]

Check water temps and ph. fix what is broken and then wait to see a change, 2 days of shity ph in a dwc is really bad.... u might want to keep a closer eye on your grow. You said there is a 400 wtt hps in there how does it work for you?

[Wheezey]

Thanks for the reply Jack. Finally a reply from an elder statesman here, hehe. I have the homegrown-hydroponics.com econo stealth cab (I think its called, the $795 one that ends up being 1100 with shipping). Just had it for 3 days now though. Was using the "other top company's" (sunlightsheds.com) PC model for the first month of growth. Had the meager one gallon reservoir at 1100 ppm for more than a week. The aerator stone kept migrating to a corner. The PC was 20 inch high with a 50 watt hps. The cab is almost 36 inches with a 400 hps hanging down a couple of inches. Got root rot in the PC, which I cleaned out as much as I could. Will send a picture of roots, hold on. Okay, got em.

Hey this thing came with the lights coming on every 8 hours and then off 4 hours, breaking up the day into two parts. Could that be killing them? (I told you I was a newb). Thanks for your time replying. Wheezey

[Wheezey]

BTW pH is staying at 6 now, keeping nutrients minimal to none (100 PPM now). The net pot is about 3/4 of an inch above the water, which is 67 degrees now. Room temp 75, humidity 55%.

[LOC NAR on probation]

All your specs sound good. They may be just stunted from the root rot. I might would back off the side light for a few days. They really don't look that bad and root looks better. I have trimmed the roots to just water level without much stunting at all. Give them a some more time I bet they pick up. Good luck. If you do a seach for LOC NAR1958 (redhair ladies) I think that was the one I trimmed roots.

[tomasinho]

You can fix the air stone migration by gluing it to the bottom of the rez with a hot glue gun - that will keep it in place. Also - you want the lights on at least 18 straight hours a day. Eight on and four off is not a good light cycle - it will make your plants do wierd shit. A good cycle would be 18 on, 6 off or 24 on. Hope that helps. How many nodes do the plants have? You might want to feed them with real mild (1/4 stength) nutes. The plants need very little nutes when they have 4 or less nodes. You should feed them gently at first - 1100ppm in veg is good for mid-late to late veg - to much for small plants. Stay greazy.

[alwayssleepdeprived]

I have an aero setup and my plants looked exactly the same as yours did when I first started I think I even have pictures up on the post (please help droopy plants near the top of the hydroponics page...jack and loc gave good advice the only thing I can think to add is not to go too low on the nutes...when I did I noticed the got kinda stiff in the drooped position...200 at that size is probably as low as you'd want to go cause there is no reason to add any extra stress to an already stressed plant...the leaves look just like in my grow they felt like lettuce before I flushed...but after I fixed the problem I didn't realize they were at too low a ppm to really show that they were all better...once I upped the nutes to 300ppm they jumped back within a day or 2

it takes a bit to get used to growin...the plants will definately bounce back like loc said...only problem I had was males and hermies because of the stress so if they are from seed thats' something to take into consideration as long as they come out female I doubt this will affect the yield much if any

[tomasinho]

I agree with ASD. 0=not enough, 1100=too much at this stage, 300-500=just right. Peace.