yea i use them for early veg 125ww cool (there really good at keeping the plant bushy!). i did a grow with a 200w warm last year got bout 3 oz of a ww. But i have no way near the amount of grow experience as Mobay!

Yea i saw that 4 light reflector, they do a six as well, as well as a parabolic reflector. there good for keeping the heat down 2.