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    #71
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    Would your conscience let you?

    Quote Originally Posted by make it legal
    Refusing her would be acting like our very own government who denys us weed and thinks they know what's better for us.
    If weed caused something as awful as FAS, this might be a valid argument...

    The government has little to no real research to back up their claims about the harm of weed. The harm of alcohol on fetuses is VERY well-proven and well-documented, and is more of a danger to society then weed really is at all.

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    #72
    Senior Member

    Would your conscience let you?

    Quote Originally Posted by vileoxidation
    If weed caused something as awful as FAS, this might be a valid argument...

    The government has little to no real research to back up their claims about the harm of weed. The harm of alcohol on fetuses is VERY well-proven and well-documented, and is more of a danger to society then weed really is at all.
    just because they dont know the harm of it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

    who knows the effects of ganja on an unborn child?

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    #73
    Senior Member

    Would your conscience let you?

    Quote Originally Posted by make it legal
    Refusing her would be acting like our very own government who denys us weed and thinks they know what's better for us.

    We are adults and make choices.
    Can the unborn baby? Maybe it DOESN'T WANT FAS??? Ever think of that?

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    #74
    Senior Member

    Would your conscience let you?

    No one seems to get that refusing to serve her isn't a matter of judgment, personal, moral, religious or otherwise--or even an infringement of her freedoms to drink. If we had a big issue with personal, moral or religious judgment, it's unlikely we'd be in the drink-serving business in the first place.

    The pregnant lady can drink all she wants to at home or in her car or wherever. Those of us who've said we'd refuse to serve her are simply saying we'd refuse to do so because we understand liability. Nothing more than that. We also understand some fairly basic, easy medical science about developing fetuses. No one with any sense would serve an infant a drink. Or a preemie baby. Well, if we served their mother before they were born, we'd essentially be doing the same thing. We live in a plantiff's-action-crazed country and legal system. Most of us were simply looking at this from the standpoint of business owners trying to protect our business interests and also hoping not to damage a baby.

    Halfassed, whether or not you believe Polymirize got your point or not, your point was indeed nonsensical. You're obviously heavily invested in the freedom aspect of this question, which is fine. But you made a leap from a simple would-you question to civil rights and racism. That was a total non-sequitor. And the two have nothing to do with one another here. Take a logic class. The do some reading about civil rights. The right to be served alcohol isn't among those. That's another matter entirely.
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    #75
    Senior Member

    Would your conscience let you?

    Quote Originally Posted by halfassedjediknight
    just because they dont know the harm of it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

    who knows the effects of ganja on an unborn child?
    Except that I wasn't talking about the effects of weed on a fetus. You compared to the government completely banning it, which is entirely different then comparing it to smoking while pregnant.

    I was simply talking about the banning of it in general, which is what you were using in your comparison.

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    #76
    Senior Member

    Would your conscience let you?

    Quote Originally Posted by vileoxidation
    Except that I wasn't talking about the effects of weed on a fetus. You compared to the government completely banning it, which is entirely different then comparing it to smoking while pregnant.

    I was simply talking about the banning of it in general, which is what you were using in your comparison.
    no someone else made that comparison i think. you got the wrong guy.

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    #77
    Senior Member

    Would your conscience let you?

    Quote Originally Posted by halfassedjediknight
    no someone else made that comparison i think. you got the wrong guy.
    That doesn't change the fact that I wasn't at all talking about the effect of weed of fetuses. It wasn't part of the debate.

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    #78
    Senior Member

    Would your conscience let you?

    Quote Originally Posted by vileoxidation
    That doesn't change the fact that I wasn't at all talking about the effect of weed of fetuses. It wasn't part of the debate.
    you said..

    "If weed caused something as awful as FAS, this might be a valid argument...

    The government has little to no real research to back up their claims about the harm of weed. The harm of alcohol on fetuses is VERY well-proven and well-documented, and is more of a danger to society then weed really is at all."

    so therefore..you were talking about the effect of weed on a fetus?

    correct my mistake if im wrong.

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    #79
    Senior Member

    Would your conscience let you?

    I have been a Bartender for the past 4 years and on the rare occasion that a pregger asked for a drink I would only serve them non alcoholic drinks. It looks bad for the bartender and the rest of the establishment to be serving liquor to pregnant women. Plus it also saves her some embarrassment, and I don't feel bad because I didnt contribute to possible birth defects with a human being.... we are already fucked up as it is the last thing we need is more people born all fucked up.

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    #80
    Senior Member

    Would your conscience let you?

    Quote Originally Posted by halfassedjediknight
    you said..

    "If weed caused something as awful as FAS, this might be a valid argument...

    The government has little to no real research to back up their claims about the harm of weed. The harm of alcohol on fetuses is VERY well-proven and well-documented, and is more of a danger to society then weed really is at all."

    so therefore..you were talking about the effect of weed on a fetus?

    correct my mistake if im wrong.
    Okay....

    The government has little to no real research to back up their claims about the harm of weed.

    Does that sentence include anything about fetuses? The harm of weed IN GENERAL. I think I already made it clear that I was talking about the banning of weed in general, which was the original comparison that was made.

    And even if that's not enough for you, then take it like this: fine, YOU'RE RIGHT, I said it wrong. That doesn't change what I was actually talking about, which I have reiterated multiple times now.

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