logical explenation for God

[Prunedale]

*sigh*


allow me to elaborate.


"god" is the mind.


there is only one mind, split into infinity illusions of separate self.


the mind decided to create the illusion of the physical world, and embody physical bodies.


think of our reality as a huge assed RPG, for which the mind can enjoy.

"god" is simply the core of the mind, the source of awareness, of consciousness.

"god" is the superconscious mind, from which the subconscious taps in to dream and give the conscious mind awareness.

I believe jesus was a man on this earth, but in no way the procreation of god, or any deity.


i believe there are individual minds who have ascended to achieve status as deities, but no single being with all powerful all knowing attributes, I.E. "God".

Jesus was but a man who had achieved ascension early on, as far as men on earth go.


The mind is all that exists, it creates the illusion of reality.


without mind, something cannot exist, the mind of a rock, the mind of a tree, the spirit is mind, the brain is a transmitter and receiver of thoughts and awareness, of our conscious mind, but it is not the source. the mind is the source of reality. it simply creates the illusion of separation.

GOtta say I agree a bit with you. I'm a firm believer that the mind has the power to manefest its own creation... The power of thought I believe in. The power of programming yourself I believe in. Through auto suggestion you can tap into your subcon. We're creatures of habit as I said. Our thoughts and actions are results of habits we are attuned to... Ascend?? This aint warlock stuff bro.. But if you mean becoming extremely clear. Then I guess I can see what you mean.. So you believe in Jesus just not that he was the son of god... Dude why is his body gone?? And why did he say he was going to res BEFORE he ressed? Just a question.. There can be no nature without the lord. For he "created it in his mind as a thought, and from a thought he took dirt and created us.. Soon, we will all return. To dirt.. The natural cycle of life.. Where All life is created... The dirt. By the lords hands..
We can't explain why a seed germinates and shit starts happening after eyars of a seed being asleep.. That just happened to be??? Bull.. The days and nights, and one moon for tides, and seasons etc.. All by just a natural occurance??? Bull. Us evolving from monkeys and apes?? Perhaps, but why didn't they evolve with us?? Why are they still in primal stage? Why were we special? OOOOOH.. God said we were... I see.. Being that god created all you see.. animals plants and life of man.. God gave this world to us. For us to rule as long as we followed one rule... I agree there can be a bit of story telling with commandments etc, but really it does good for the people, look at what we're into.. The mortal sins of the 10 commandments are just rules... If you follow those rules you'll have a great life.. Its not hard for any idiot to see that if I go sleep with my neighbors wife, bad things will happen, if I go steal.. something bad will happen.. So really its pretty self explained.. Live good.. Love your fellow man.. You are all here together on this earth at this point in time.. I love spirituality but I do NOT allow it to be above the lord. For sure those all exist in his kingdom.. Nature exists.. in gods kingdom... Nature doesn't exist on mars. Hell Earth and Heaven... Dimension enough for ya? You can't fly a rocket to heaven and you can dig to hell. I'd call those dimensions.. There perhaps may be more but I wouldn't wanna know what they're like. I often wonder if the lord created us and we fucked it all up, and I wonder if he created other paradise's. hmmmm I'll ask him when I get there.

I hope because 7 days to create this, he's been hangin out answering prayers and such for a very long time

[bong_man]

since everyone else is telling there beliefs here are mine.

I dont give it any thought at all. I know that it is way outside of my understanding, why do humans feel that they deserve to know everything and that they can understand everything? I dont believe in religion and i dont believe in an afterlife, I dont believe in religion because i think its evil and it was created to oppress scared sheeple, i dont believe in an afterlife because i choose not to, I would much prefer to think that one day everything will end and i will not exist than to think i will live forever. Why anyone would want to live forever is beyond me. im out of it on painkillers for an infection i have going right true my head so im pretty out of it sorry for the post lol

[Prunedale]

since everyone else is telling there beliefs here are mine.

I dont give it any thought at all. I know that it is way outside of my understanding, why do humans feel that they deserve to know everything and that they can understand everything? I dont believe in religion and i dont believe in an afterlife, I dont believe in religion because i think its evil and it was created to oppress scared sheeple, i dont believe in an afterlife because i choose not to, I would much prefer to think that one day everything will end and i will not exist than to think i will live forever. Why anyone would want to live forever is beyond me. im out of it on painkillers for an infection i have going right true my head so im pretty out of it sorry for the post lol

THANK YOU DUDE..

For real why does everyone need a darned explanation all spelled out to believe... Its called Faith.. If you don't have it... Sorry for ya.. I don't wanna live forever either.. Especially on this rock..

I agree religion is a way of moving people. Not all religion is good. Religion has been a problem. Too many know the truth lol. Their opinions or beliefs are the truth, i.e. suicide bombers... To be so behind their faith and religion that the lord will grant them eternal life in heaven if they kill??? Hmmm. Twiiiiisted.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

GOtta say I agree a bit with you. I'm a firm believer that the mind has the power to manefest its own creation... The power of thought I believe in. The power of programming yourself I believe in. Through auto suggestion you can tap into your subcon. We're creatures of habit as I said. Our thoughts and actions are results of habits we are attuned to... Ascend?? This aint warlock stuff bro.. But if you mean becoming extremely clear. Then I guess I can see what you mean.. So you believe in Jesus just not that he was the son of god... Dude why is his body gone?? And why did he say he was going to res BEFORE he ressed? Just a question.. There can be no nature without the lord. For he "created it in his mind as a thought, and from a thought he took dirt and created us.. Soon, we will all return. To dirt.. The natural cycle of life.. Where All life is created... The dirt. By the lords hands..
We can't explain why a seed germinates and shit starts happening after eyars of a seed being asleep.. That just happened to be??? Bull.. The days and nights, and one moon for tides, and seasons etc.. All by just a natural occurance??? Bull. Us evolving from monkeys and apes?? Perhaps, but why didn't they evolve with us?? Why are they still in primal stage? Why were we special? OOOOOH.. God said we were... I see.. Being that god created all you see.. animals plants and life of man.. God gave this world to us. For us to rule as long as we followed one rule... I agree there can be a bit of story telling with commandments etc, but really it does good for the people, look at what we're into.. The mortal sins of the 10 commandments are just rules... If you follow those rules you'll have a great life.. Its not hard for any idiot to see that if I go sleep with my neighbors wife, bad things will happen, if I go steal.. something bad will happen.. So really its pretty self explained.. Live good.. Love your fellow man.. You are all here together on this earth at this point in time.. I love spirituality but I do NOT allow it to be above the lord. For sure those all exist in his kingdom.. Nature exists.. in gods kingdom... Nature doesn't exist on mars. Hell Earth and Heaven... Dimension enough for ya? You can't fly a rocket to heaven and you can dig to hell. I'd call those dimensions.. There perhaps may be more but I wouldn't wanna know what they're like. I often wonder if the lord created us and we fucked it all up, and I wonder if he created other paradise's. hmmmm I'll ask him when I get there.

I hope because 7 days to create this, he's been hangin out answering prayers and such for a very long time

i'll be blunt: we dont KNOW JACK SHIT about jesus. only what was written about him 500 years after he died. :wtf: i dunno about you, but im pretty sure the truth about jesus was horribly marred.
i am certain that the man did exist, and did do many a great things, even miraculous things, but he was but a man, as all men are. he is the symbol of an ascended man.


my belief is that everything that exists is a mind, has a mind.

the mind of a seed is why a seed is a seed, and acts as a seed acts. it's mind is designed to be a seed, as seeds are.

our minds can interfere in many ways with a seed, it is a matter of how expanded our awareness is, and how strong our conscious thoughts are.

not only that, many other factors could be involved, i know very little, these are simply beliefs i have honed for the last decade.


nature... simply put, nature is.

the nature of the universe, is as the universe is. the nature of earth, the nature of mars, the nature of the sun, the nature of the spinning spiral of stars we have called the milky way...


the nature of our earth is simply the only nature we KNOW, and we do not even fully know it, as we can only thing, observe, and remember. we cannot KNOW. we observe thoughts, our observations are thought, our memories are thought, but truly knowledge evades us. it is not impossible to attain true knowing, but it is not possible if we remain so attached to the physical world, so detached from the mental scape, the spirit, the astral, the ethereal, the realms beyond our physical senses.


god is not a man, nor a deity, not an individual being, but the collective ALL of every mind, from rocks and trees and ants to mammals, fish, reptiles and birds and humans.

the mind of a single atomic particle is a fraction of the mind that is god.

god is no being. jesus, as the son of god, is a metaphor for his ascension. nothing more.

[Platinum Plus]

I don't think that you can have a simple explanation about god...
it's too Complex... your lying to yourself if you believe you know why he is.

[RedRainDrop]

"god" is life. Everything is "god"....thats why "god" seems so "powerful".

This is true..... You are god, everything is god. Every living thing is spiritually intertwined. At least thats what i think.

[santa]

how many threads are we gonna keep having about this topic???? i mean honestly you people argue and argue and no one gets anywhere

u basically have the enlightend stoners who are all for a higher power vs. the skeptical stoners aka atheists...and dont forget about the happy stoners who just want both sides to be happy and say u can believe whatever u want

just face it....u cant prove or disprove either side of the argument....were all gonna die one day...some of us may be correct, others wil be wrong, hell we all could be wrong for all i know so dont claim to know

the fact is there is evidence supporting both sides of the god or no god argument....but in the end its faith...just like with most things that arent even related to god...like evolution for example...is there tons of evidence for it? yes there is....does it seem very logical and even likely? yes i think so....is it proven fact? hell no, the last step is faith if you belive in evolution (i do by the way)

I hear ya on some level stemis.. but.. you're basically just picking apart what the forum is.. discussions.. and yeah.. there isn't gonna be unlimited topics to just delve into.. so stuff gets repeated and gets tedious etc..

your summary of 'stoner types' made me laugh.. makes alot of sense .. there are some distinct categories.. but you gotta remember that we fall into one aswell..

i think we would be the cynical over-analytical stoners.. seein as you picked apart this whole thread.. and it looks like i sorta just picked apart your post..

peace :stoned: