logical explenation for God

[Abunai]

I think it was just made up for mass control n shit; keep people going.

Man, have you heard? They successfully made a 15% human/85% sheep...that's scary, what if it has human characteristics? that'd suck ass man...

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

That I back... You have my support.. Thanks for clarifying..
For a time I was that way too.. I'm from Santa Cruz bro, can't be more spiritual than our people. We still have hippies.. I love em.. I don't follow the book much either.. But I've read it.. Great story... Great Lessons.. Its all metaphors.. I'm sure someone could write teachings as far as natural enlightenment goes... You just need to be ready to receive it.. Hey I hope you aren't angry at me, I wasn't stabbin at ya.. Friendly convo.. I'm glad we don't agree 100% the world would be a boring place if we were all goin with one grain.

ahh i laughed. no no anger on my part, it takes more than a simple exchange of points of view to rouse me :hippy:


on a side note WTF is the quote+ button, and why doesnt it DO anything?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I think it was just made up for mass control n shit; keep people going.

Man, have you heard? They successfully made a 15% human/85% sheep...that's scary, what if it has human characteristics? that'd suck ass man...

:wtf:


WHAAAAAAAAAAAT????!?!?!!!?!!!?!1!?1/1/1?!?1?!?1?1shift+1shift+/!?

[Pink_Floyd]

Dude the mind??? Please.. Who do you think decided to create a being... with a mind... and a spirit.. in his own image...

You guys who follow your feelings wonder why you are always failing..
You lack faith... Not just faith in God or Jesus or some other disciple (whoever) none meet the level of Jesus.. For he was the only who rezzed. All the rest lay in their graves to this day.

If you believe god was created to keep people in line...
Think of todays beliefs, there has now been a religion to cause chaos..
People are now using religion as an excuse to do things outside man law.

Believe what you want. But I feel sorry for you..

3 People were at the edge of a cliff. Looking over the land.. Feeling got too close to the edge, being the emotional one and fell off the cliff.. Faith looked over the edge to see if he could save Feeling and fell off himself... Fact, knowing the truth, quickly threw his hand out and saved Faith.. and along with Faith, came Feeling...

Don't trust your feelings.. They come and go, your Mind controls your feelings. We're habitual emotional beings. So its your habit to decline the fact that Jesus existed and the Lord God created all you see and do. He loves you even though you do not believe in him. He knew you would. But it saddens him that he's provided all these treats and perks and you push it aside for your material and superficial things and distractions..

Would you eat junk food before your mother cooked you dinner??
Why would you push your Fathers plate away from you after he provided for you??

Yes these are my beliefs, but I'm a logical thinker as well. Since you guys say this is about 2000 years old. How else are we to know Jesus than to read his book. The book his disciples wrote after he taught them how to pray, how to love, how to accept the lord in his life, AND he gives himself to cleanse us of our sins that we have and will do.. The lord knows we'll slip, but looks upon us as if we've never sinned.

You may believe yourself today.. And believe God tommarrow.. Keep an open mind sir..

I hope you do not believe in a christian god.
Because if you do, let me give you advice: don't.
Believe in the words of Jesus, for he is not related to this so called god.
He is like Buddha - a spiritual man. And by saying that he is god you are insulting Jesus himself.
It is fine to base your life on the words of jesus, for what he said was true. But basing your life on a fictional idea only spawns ignorcance.
And as said by Buddha himself, ignorance is the root of all evil. And I agree 100%.

[Pass That Shit]

I hope you do not believe in a christian god.
Because if you do, let me give you advice: don't.
Believe in the words of Jesus, for he is not related to this so called god.
He is like Buddha - a spiritual man. And by saying that he is god you are insulting Jesus himself.
It is fine to base your life on the words of jesus, for what he said was true. But basing your life on a fictional idea only spawns ignorcance.
And as said by Buddha himself, ignorance is the root of all evil. And I agree 100%.

How do you know that calling Jesus God is insulting to him? How come he never said anything bad about those that bowed down and worshipped him? Don't speak for Jesus dude. He's got his own mouth. Don't be ignorant of the word of God if you say that ignorance is the root of all evil.

[Pink_Floyd]

How do you know that calling Jesus God is insulting to him? How come he never said anything bad about those that bowed down and worshipped him? Don't speak for Jesus dude. He's got his own mouth. Don't be ignorant of the word of God if you say that ignorance is the root of all evil.

Yes, because the bible says that he's the son of god and that he can walk on water, it must be true :O
Do u have any idea how much of these so called "events" happened to be found in ealier Buddhist, Hindu, and cuneiform scripts?
It's not mystery that both blibles copied multiple things from other religions, and incorpareted them into their deity.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

how about this: follow all knowing NATURE, and forget about religious laws and rules, and just go by ear, do what you need to do when you need to do it, and balance harmony?



fuck Buddha, fuck Jesus, Fuck Confucious, and Fuck God, and just BE, to the best of your ability, in peace and harmony with all other life!


from the lowly ant to the massive whale, why cant we live in harmony?



stop relying on the literature of man to form your beliefs.

[Prunedale]

Santa Cruz doesn't have spirituality, it has a scene. And it's very, very marketable there. Having dreadlocks, wearing sandals and playing a handdrum does not make you a spiritual individual. In fact, in today's society its probably just another way of passively accepting enslavement.


I may have missed it, but I don't think anybody made the mistake of calling you a smart-ass...

Hmmm.. Los Angeles Has a Scene..
SC has always been the same, open-minded free spiritual people. Slavery? Whatever you wanna call it. But yea we're all ruled in life by the clock or the gov't. Don't think one of you is spared in that category. So you live there?? OR.. how long have you been familiar with SC?
Personally.. I wasn't talking about the dread hippie guitar playing people at each end of Pac Ave. I meant the city as a whole (for the most part) and would say.. SC is spiritual. Naturally. Marketable?? I haven't bought into anything, probably because no one is selling "the scene" if there IS a scene.... Its surfing/skating.. SC is home to major companies.. SO THAT.. is marketable..

Over all I have to disagree.. and state that SC is very liberal and spiritual. For the most part..(course new peeps movin in and tech companies movin in too.) people are into spiritual beliefs. Yes I'll agree some spiritual people are pretty off the beaten path.. So with that said.. lets look at Stoner Wolf... would he fall into the spiritual people category by just looking at him??

I'd say no.. He's more gamer/stoner when you first look at him... You would never guess he has a deep thought pattern about different things people don't really clue into unless they were influenced and given things to think about... His vocab hints of fantasy games and remind me of friends I have on eq/wow etc. But like I said... We don't just come up with shit.. Its from people before us.. So I back the book... any book. Doesn't mean believe it... Just means read another book, get another opinion.

HOWEVER.... That would be my observation of him... Of course its not accurate. You can't tell whats in a book by the cover or what someone else says about it. And if they say something about it.. They should have credibility.. Wheres yours for your SC statement?

[Prunedale]

I hope you do not believe in a christian god.
Because if you do, let me give you advice: don't.
Believe in the words of Jesus, for he is not related to this so called god.
He is like Buddha - a spiritual man. And by saying that he is god you are insulting Jesus himself.
It is fine to base your life on the words of jesus, for what he said was true. But basing your life on a fictional idea only spawns ignorcance.
And as said by Buddha himself, ignorance is the root of all evil. And I agree 100%.

Think you missed the point bro...
But to answer your question.. I believe in the father.. Lord and father of Jesus Christ.. I believe in the Son of the most high, Jesus. And I also believe in the holy spirit which upon confirming to the Lord myself....That I wanted to give my life to serving his will....placed inside me.. There is a void inside you that only the lord can fill... Jesus not god??? They are one.... OR... God has a son... Jesus is his name... Do you not think Jesus would not have the power of the lord hsi father? After has asks for it to show the people he IS the truth, and the promise upheld by god to save his creations from eternal fire.

Bottom line.. Why do they call Jesus.. Immanuel?? Which means.. "God with us"..

To really answer your question... THERE IS NO CHRISTIAN GOD.. Only.. God.. The Son... And the holy spirit he gives to those who ask for it and are prepared to receive.

[Prunedale]

Yes, because the bible says that he's the son of god and that he can walk on water, it must be true :O
Do u have any idea how much of these so called "events" happened to be found in ealier Buddhist, Hindu, and cuneiform scripts?
It's not mystery that both blibles copied multiple things from other religions, and incorpareted them into their deity.

Buddah, and all other prophets... Are dead... Laying in graves.. You can visit them... Check it out online....

Wanna visit Jesus?? You can't... There is your difference and proof he WAS and spoke truth.

Guys I'm not even all religious so don't take me for some christian dude.
I'm a stoner who loves art, but I also try my best to walk with the lord and I allow him to guide and teach me. I weep knowing we the people.. did what we did to him because he was the true son / king /servant /savior of man. I often wonder, if god came to us these days, would we turn him away like before.. Lord save us again.....

I personally can not wait to be with my father in his kingdom.. This world we live in is finished. Its only a matter of time. Before we destroy ourselves.. Or a few bad apples destroys it for the rest of us.

Dear Lord... Come get me Asap.. Thanks - Prune