Look i know im looking for help and dont want to seem unfriendy. The way i always grow is like this with soil in pot no stones or perlite. I usually get up to 2 oz dry per palnt with no problems, mind you that was in miracle grow soil but i cant find that now and had to put up with this. Now the 2 big plants and the small 1 in the middle are recued from my hydroponics failure. The 4 seeds you see are crosses of nevilles haze and blue mystic, the little 1 near the shower door is a freak its not going right at all, I will try the method you described withe the bigger pot and the superthrive. Thanks for the help.