Theory on the Universe

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Ive kind of come to accept the fact that no one will ever know anything about the universe...Until death

the worms know all.

[Coelho]

anyone who has researched/thought about this intensly please comment, i've been pushed off my seat the last few days when reading about the moments and matter in the universe

Well... today we still dont know if the universe is 'open' or 'closed', as we still dont know the mass of the universe.
If its mass were greater than some critical mass, then it will be 'closed', meaning the gravitational pull will, someday, overcome the actual expansion of the universe, and will make it crunch into a big clump of ultra-dense matter.
If its mass were smaller than the critical mass, then the gravitational pull will be insufficient to stop the universe expansion, and it will expand forever.
And, fatkid, there is some oriental religions which believe the same thing you was thinking. I think hinduism is one example, with cycles of creation and destruction.
Anyway, im pretty sure no one of us will survive long enough to know it for sure...

[GotWake88]

That's the Cyclic Universe. Pretty much, what I've always believed in...

[notransfer]

If we saw the truth....we wouldn't understand it

i believe this...

i also believe the spin of endless cycles like a car on a track or a type of pendulum sorta pattern..but take in regard the human perspective and how a standard life is:shot in the dark:70 or so years...i dont think its a boom the end/new beginning i think its more of omega gradual baaaack and forrrrrth between conception of life and process of breakdown...the human perspective is a speck of a speck of a speck of the process of the universe...

for some reason i just thought of global warming as a contradictory example...

anyway, time wise there is a divine sense in it all, in the sense that the patterns of evolution and decomposition outside of a humdrum organisms existance is concerned...divine being physical nature and galaxies and the universe...

im rambling at this point but i think the term universe is odd because what if- going out on a limb here because im sleep deprived- there Are parallel universes wouldnt it consistently be a BIverse, or could it be a Triverse or a Quadraverse? lol

shutting up NOW.

[FreeVenice]

If you can find out what makes an Ion an Ion, you found the meaning of life. As for a begining or end. . . Thats out of our hand (no i'm not being religous), all we have control over is our own being. It's life as a probability, cause, reaction, and as certain people like to think clockwork. . .

[Oneironaut]

My theory is that all mathematically and logically possible universes exist. We exist only because it is mathematically and logically possible that a universe could exist that contains us. If this theory is true, then the fact that the laws of physics seem to be especially suited for the creation of life is not a mystery. The only universes that are capable of being seen by anybody are those universes where the laws of physics were set up in such a way that evolution could get working and conscious beings could arise.

The question of why there is something instead of nothing doesn't get solved, but I think we can at least shine a little light on it. The relationship between logical consistency and existence is such that something cannot be both logically consistent and non-existent in the multiverse. The multiverse is a giant, mindless computer, working through the rules of logic, creating every possible combination of true and false things, one of which, interestingly enough, is you.

[FreeVenice]

What do you mean by the rules of logic. You use the word logically a few times there and I was wondering if you were able to break it down a little more than saying logic. . .

[Coelho]

My theory is that all mathematically and logically possible universes exist. We exist only because it is mathematically and logically possible that a universe could exist that contains us. If this theory is true, then the fact that the laws of physics seem to be especially suited for the creation of life is not a mystery. The only universes that are capable of being seen by anybody are those universes where the laws of physics were set up in such a way that evolution could get working and conscious beings could arise.

I believe in this, but somewhat upside-down... i believe our universe obeys physical laws because our mind works with laws, patterns and relationships. Our mind is like a filter, which seeks (and finds) order in the chaos which is the universe. We only see what we look for. As our minds create the mathematic and logic, we try to understand everything in terms of it.


(PS. Its my 300th post!)

[thecreator]

Damn good shit but the real question is how man universes are there. 10 or 11 i think but im not totally sure. Nice post though:thumbsup: gets the mind working for next week.

[madeline]

Then the concept of a thimble full of matter weighing more than the earth, as with a neutron star, must be truly puzzling! But somehow physics explains it all and I trust higher math teachings as they prove the facts.