gay marriage what do you think?

[amsterdam]

divided we fall?what the hell is that?

[Jake0steve]

I am not against gay marraige, if homosexual individuals want to marry then it isn't hurting anyone else, just let them.

[Trychs]

Jesus had a boyfriend he's in the gospel of Mark. Apparently theres also a lot more on it thats been edited out. Elijah was partial to lying on top of young boys too while they were in the prone position and in the beginning it wasn't Adam and Eve it was Adam and Jahweh and you can bet your goolies that the mans bits worked just fine and that God thought they were good.
I guesss these christians are destined to never really understand what Jesus meant by us in them and them in us but nah the church must have this gay stuff and Gods attitude to it right mustn't they thats why they can all walk on water and raise the dead just like every good christian should be able to do.
Bleedin plonkas the lot of them.

[amsterdam]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Mojavpa]

Once people see that gay marriage worked out in Massachusettes, and that civilization didnt fall apart there, then I'm sure other states will begin legalizing gay marriage soon. I want to be able to marry another guy one day, and seeing as how I'm a tax-paying citizen just like any person, I should be able to, with ALL the benefits straight couples receive.

[mellow mood]

wow some of you really think being gay is a disease?? jeez theres gays everywhere: humans, rats, cats, everything. you dont choose to be gay. wtf are u all talkin about? if u were born gay u wouldnt say such things. respect everyone. im not gay and i dont like very much gays but if they wanna marry who fuckin cares???? wtf is with you guys sometimes your so extrmist with your goddamn christiannism. who cares abo ut adam and eve. this is only a metaphore anyway. who cares about religions? its a human right to do what u want to do.

[Fengzi]

I love my spouse and I can not express how happy I am that we were able to be married. It wasn't always that case. Many had opposed my type of marraige saying that it was unnatural and against god's plan. We would have been ridiculed, and in places such as Texass, we probably woud have been tied up and dragged behind some rednecks pick-up. No, I'm not gay. I'm white and my wife is Asian. Even as late as 1967 16 states still had laws against mixing races.

I'm not gay but I don't see any reason that they shouldn't be allowed to get married. The way I see it their position is not that different from the way mine would have been less than 40 years ago.

Conservatives like to point to the sanctity of the institution of marraige and of traditional family values. If family values are the issue there are a lot of other people who shouldn't be allowed to get married. Convicted felons can get married, even before they get out of prison, KKK members can get married, and the list goes on. So, according to taditional family values its ok to have a couple of white supremacists get married, and raise more little hateful white supremecists but it's not ok for a couple of homosexuals who are generally law abiding and accepting of others to get married. To tell you the truth, I'd much rather have a gay couple move in across the street from me than a career criminal or neo-nazi family.


As far as some people's, such as Toreg, fear that homosexuals are luring our children away, it is well known that nearly all pedophiles are heterosexuals. Yep, that's right, after they get through with the kids they go home to their wives and then go to preach to their flock on Sunday.

I don't have any gay friends. I have known a few gays, though, and by and large they were pretty decent people. I've never met a gay asshole (ha, ha, ha..I didn't mean it that way). I've met a lot of straight assholes (again, ha, ha, ha..I didn't mean it that way), however. The way I see it , it doesn't hurt me if gays get married so why the hell not.

[Mojavpa]

wow some of you really think being gay is a disease?? jeez theres gays everywhere: humans, rats, cats, everything. you dont choose to be gay. wtf are u all talkin about? if u were born gay u wouldnt say such things. respect everyone. im not gay and i dont like very much gays but if they wanna marry who fuckin cares???? wtf is with you guys sometimes your so extrmist with your goddamn christiannism. who cares abo ut adam and eve. this is only a metaphore anyway. who cares about religions? its a human right to do what u want to do.

Dont mean to pry, but why dont you like gay people?

[drivebyphilosopher]

The only legal part of a marriage is a civil union, so why is it that when religion steps in and calls it marriage that it suddenly affords you more rights than simply getting a civil union? That's unconstitutional. Violation of the 14th amendment and separation of church and state, anyone?

With all this in mind, the only thing going on with this Gay Marriage debate is a moral debate. Morals, however, all flow from the primal one, "It is wrong to hurt someone unfairly." Because of this, love in itself cannot be immoral, so the only debate REALLY going on is the one about people being disgusted by gays, which has nothing to do with anything...

Heres a good puff of logic for you all when it comes to arguements and which ammendment the gay marriage debate would fall under as far as protection goes for them.

Most people think that gay marriage will fall under the 9th ammendment, the unenumerated rights clause, or the first ammendment and separation of church and state. However, I figured that it would fall under the 14th ammendment, which guarentees equal protection for the sexes and equal treatment under the law.

The arguement often goes, "They have as much freedom as we do to marry someone of the opposite sex, so it doesnt violate the equal protection. They have equal rights and should stop asking for special rights".

This arguement has a flaw though. Whoever came up with that is looking at society as a whole, but when you get down to it, the constitution limits powers of the federal government and the bill of rights applies to people on an individual level. When you look at someone on such a level, the non-equal treatment under the law is instantly visable.

Pick any one man. That man has the right to marry a woman, but not a man. Pick any one woman, that woman has the right to marry a man, but not a woman. It is nowhere more obvious than on the individual level that sex discrimination IS taking place, and there is a preferential treatment per person, which is NOT allowed under the 14th ammendment.

[amsterdam]

gay people do have the right to marry,they just have to marry a woman.i know that isnt what they dream of ,but saying they dont have the right to marry is false.