Quote Originally Posted by sawleaf
Sorry Torog, I'm gonna have to agree with these guys. You are always for freedom, but it seems to be selected freedom for those people you approve of, not true freedom. This is supposed to be a free country established for the people, not against them, but we are becoming less free each day. If you are truely for freedom then you wouldn't divide and seperate people the way you do. Do you think the Lord would want you to hate your fellow man? I try not to hate people, but it is hard at times Torog, I know. It is easier to see if you put aside your views for a minute and try to look at it from other people's perspectives. People just want to enjoy their lives and live in happiness. What is so wrong with that? Does it make you mad that others unlike you or maybe more like you than you think, want to be happy and enjoy their lives also? I'm sure you'd be suprised, but there are a lot of homosexuals who are republican and did vote for Bush! Hell, I even know gay NRA members. Just as shocking as finding such a right-wing conservative on a pro-cannabis website! Our founding fathers were extremely intelligent men. Their goal was to create a country with the least restrictive government, which would allow as much personal freedom as possible, and would not be run by the religion. I am a fellow Christian Torog, I'm just wishing you'd be a bit more openminded in your views.
Howdy sawleaf,

Well daggumit..you're probably right..I'm being a bit heavy-handed,and like ya say,folks just want to be happy in their lives..who am I to judge what's ok or not ? Like i said earlier to Nullific or XTC,I can't recall which-there are alot of folks in this area where I'm at,mostly the redneck cowboys,that think it's a grand sport..to beat up any gays they come across,while they are out drinking on Saturday night..you think I'm bad..whew ! They also like to beat up long-hairs like me..well..I'm a pretty big guy-so they usually just leave me alone.

My biggest problem,is giving or granting or rewarding,sexual deviancy with rights..I don't believe that is right-especially if it puts children at risk. I don't believe that parental authority,should be usurped in order to promote the acceptance of a sexually deviant lifestyle. I believe that school should be about learning -not exploring one's sexuality-before one is even mature enough,emotionally or physically,to be making those kind of decisions. I don't believe that kindergardners,should be encouraged to experiment with masturbation or oral sex,as has been done by some schools in California and probably Massachusetts.

Yup..I know about Log Cabin Republicans, but I didn't know about gays in the NRA ! Heck..I guess huntin and shootin,are fun for everyone..even gay fellers. I'll try and be more open-minded,but it ain't easy,given that I was raised to believe that there are very few excuses for bad behaviour and bad choices..nor excuses for not gittin something done-and done right the first time.

My old man,raised my brother and I,real strict..and his old man was even stricter,there was no room for amoral relativism,no excuse for not learning from our mistakes,and we got beat with a belt and knocked up side the head..and my dad is 6'5'' tall and pure muscle and meaness. We were forged into men-with hard work and hard discipline. These days,younguns are lazy,disrespectful to their parents and elders,use every excuse under the Sun,to git out of work or living up to their responsibilities,and have no sense of humbleness or gratefulness,or how to honor others. I blame modern liberalism for that and it seems like pushing acceptance of a sexually deviant life-style,is just another way to avoid the responsibility of gittin married and having a family..oops-there I go again..with my old-fashioned values..sorry for that.

Have a good one...Torog
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