Quote Originally Posted by Torog
Howdy Purple Potatoes,

You ask:"What if one of your kids was gay ?"

Well..I have only one child,a daughter,praise the Lord-that she ain't gay..and may God have mercy on those who are.

What you don't seem to understand,is that for me and billions of religious folks,homosexuality..is a sin. This is not a question of civil rights..it's a question of how to love the sinner and hate the sin..as well as how to stop the spread of disease and death,that is the curse of homosexuality. Did you know-that in Saudia Arabia,homosexuals are put to the sword ? Why don't gays and those who support them-ever ask for a condemnation of shari'a law regarding homosexuals ?

You claim that socialism and communism don't have a connection-but in fact,they do. The reason is,is that the homosexual agenda,serves to divide America and attack Christianity,destroy family values and promote the spread of disease and the resulting logistical burden on health and human services,couple that with addictive drugs..and you have a recipe for disaster-which is what socialists and commies want,so they can destroy America,from within..and step in with their ideaology,as a solution.

If God put gays on earth for a reason,it would be to see how faithful we are to His Word,when He said that" man shall not lay with man,as he would his wife"..and to see how we can the love the sinner and hate the sin.

My daught was molested,at the age of five,by a bi-sexual paedophile,so I have a big chip on my shoulder-towards gays and those who claim that homosexuality is harmless and a 'right'. I realize,that most gays ain't that way and that I should not judge them all,by the actions of a few..or even one.

My parents didn't teach me to hate gays..or minorities,we are Christian and know that we must love our brothers and sisters,however,the Bible taught me that homosexuality,is a sin,in the eyes of God..and I must heed that and find a way to love the sinner and hate the sin. I will not abandon my faith or go against God,for the sake of political-correctness.

As for stereotyping Texans goes,it's the conservative folks of faith,in small towns that are viewing homosexuality as a sin,whereas,cities like Houston and Dallas,are enclaves of liberalism and gays,and those who don't believe that homosexuality is a sin.

In today's world of pc'ism,the term "progressive society",means the destruction of the traditional family and traditional values,and is really an attack against the basic foundations that all societies need,in order to thrive. That term,is also linked to Karl Marx and socialism.

Have a good one...Torog
Torog,

I'm all for family values, don't get me wrong, but the majority of sins are CHOICE. I'm trying really hard to think of a sin that is on the genetic level, other than homosexuality. It says that homosexuality is a sin in the Bible, but you must consider that the Bible was NOT written by God himself. There are fallacies within the Bible, and the Bible was written my man. To me, I believe homosexuality is something that happens on the genetic level, and not controllable. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bible reflected the beliefs of society back then, rather than what God said. In the bible, it says that slavery is okay, if the slave is from a neighboring nation. "Love thy brother"... but it's okay for him to be your slave?

On the political level, I understand that homosexuality is a sin, and you don't want a sin to become acceptable. But think of many, many other sins that are encouraged and considered acceptable. Gambling, foul language, pre-marital sex, and many sex practices... but I don't think God is just going to throw in the towel and send you to Hell for one sin. If he was, we'd all be damned from the start. Marriage really isn't a religious thing anymore, it's just two people promising eachother they're going to live and love eachother until they die or divorce. If it was a religious thing, then why wouldn't people take them seriously? The divorce rate is sky high in this country, which is obvious.

I do believe homosexuality is a sin, but at the same time I don't look down upon them as sinners and second class citizens. It's not their fault they're gay (well, I believe that). And when I say progress, I don't mean it in any terms of socialism, communism, destruction of family values, or any of that. I just mean it in a sense of making our world a better place, AKA, living and learning. Also the communist party and socialist party are a VERY small percentage of Americans population within the political spectrum. I'd say the Green party would even put those two parties to shame. But communism and socialism does work in small dosages, however. You could say the end of Laissez Faire during the great depression was viewed by conservatives as socialism/communism, but hey, it got us out of the hole we were in, although it hit the richer, greedy percent of the population that had much money at the time and were the only people that had anything to lose (which was a small percent of the population). If anything, I feel religion is dividing our country. Bombs in the name of Allah, political differences due to God, Atheists claiming that religion is being forced upon them, and the Mormons... well, I won't go into Mormons . But the point is, we HAVE to get along. If the Gays feel it's REALLY important that they are able to marry, just because they want the same rights as American citizens, then let them have it. You aren't sinning in the process of letting them marry, and you're not gay yourself. Although Democracy is the process of what the majority believes is what goes, It'd be better if there was a way to compromise, or if the voters could learn the process of give and take.

I can kind of understand what you're saying, even though I disagree with you. I'm really sorry about your daughter though, I sure as hell wouldn't be so forgiving. I mean, I wish your opinion was the same as mine, (but hey, I'd like it if people saw eye to eye with me on every level), but I'm pretty sure you're set in your ways. I'm not all that old, so I might not be completely in the game of politics, life, etc.

--P.P.